Ravenol RSS 10W-60 - Worth it?

[CivicFK2TypeR]

I will have all oil stocks of this company disposed of with me. I'm not even going to use any more care products of it. I have read about inconsistencies before, this example is simply too blatant, something like that simply must not happen! How often on the world is Mobil 1 or total or Shell used and also analysed, I have never read about such strong deviations. These oils are likely to be used far more than Ravenol products. Simply disappointing, the trust in this company is absolutely over for me. Fortunately, I haven't filled my motorcycle with it yet.

 

[chris719]

Wow that is not good, I assume the wrong product got into the container.

 

[TasBMW]

And you may also receive something completely different, e.g., an HC-base 40 grade without tungsten or molybdenum, but in RSS packaging. See the following VOA

https://oil-club.de/index.php?thread/99-ravenol-rss-sae-10w-60/&postID=442370#post442370

This seems like a peculiar one off case by which something has been mislabelled or incorrectly bottled by a distributor or similar. I highly doubt it's a common occurrence. Ravenol are a big company, they sponsor the N24, it's not just a couple of dudes bottling oil in their shed.

 

[edyvw]

And you may also receive something completely different, e.g., an HC-base 40 grade without tungsten or molybdenum, but in RSS packaging. See the following VOA

https://oil-club.de/index.php?thread/99-ravenol-rss-sae-10w-60/&postID=442370#post442370

Ouch.
That is not good.
Maybe lab mixed samples?

 

[Japanese]

Not that is related to your question, but I drive with Ravenol 75W about 7 years in my manual Toyota transmission, here in the US.
Ravenol was the only oil I can find in that grade which is required by Toyota, but I could find the Toyota branded oil. I bought this oil again for my next trans. oil change. My transmission shifts as smoothly as with the original Toyota oil.

I think Ravenol is a reputable brand they are serious about their oils and they offer top quality products.

However, if the oil is double the price of Castrol, I'll just stick to Castrol. Just make sure you satisfy the BMW requirement for 10W60 oil.

 

[CivicFK2TypeR]

I have already read about several problems in the german oil forum. Even communication is very difficult with the company, I never got an answer to several inquiries. Others can do that better, Liqui Moly, Motul or even mobil 1.
Some had faulty labels, the oil canisters have been leaking for years from time to time and there was also a problem with an oil, where a VI improver probably did not dissolve, see link. Whether this was really the manufacturer's, real oil from Ravenol, can of course never be said 100 percent, but these coincidences are easy enough to say that I don't want to use anything from this company anymore.


https://oil-club.de/index.php?thread/2578-ravenol-hersteller-thread/&pageNo=46

 

[CivicFK2TypeR]

Ouch.
That is not good.
Maybe lab mixed samples?

In the used oil analysis and the fresh oil analysis? I can't imagine that the laboratory has made a mistake with both.
Ultimately, of course, one can never rule out that the fault lies elsewhere and not with Ravenol. Everyone has to decide for themselves, I just thought that it might be interesting for one or the other, so I posted it.

 

[ChristianReske]

I read enough about some "Tiny little mistakes" over time in the german Oil forum to decide for myself that i will never use their oils again. But the fanboys there and here will defend this oil.

If you read through the german forum with google translator, one member reported that his BMW sufferd damage on all cam followers shortly after filling the engine with the ravenol 10w-60 and driving it on the ractrack.

In my opinion the problem is that they have a absurd, laughable, unnecesseray huge selection of different oils in their catlaouge.
The Ravenol Dealer in the german Oil forum stated that Ravenol produced 10 ( TEN! ) 20 Liter jugs of this particular 10w-60 batch. This 20 Liter jug size is not Popular, but neverthelss, that is not indutrial scale production, thats more like "Handmade".







And now, dont forgett: Go on in good´ol BITOG tradition and blame Liqui Moly for making subpar products.

 

[chris719]

Mediocre ingredients and good execution/QC or higher quality ingredients and poor execution I guess. Comparing LM to Ravenol.

 

[CivicFK2TypeR]

I get top products with great results at half the price of Ravenol. Why should I pay more and possibly have to deal with the problems described above? Do I take Mobil1, Liqui Moly etc. I have not read anything about such problems in the forum so far, these are produced and analysed many times more often than Ravenol products.

 

[edyvw]

In the used oil analysis and the fresh oil analysis? I can't imagine that the laboratory has made a mistake with both.
Ultimately, of course, one can never rule out that the fault lies elsewhere and not with Ravenol. Everyone has to decide for themselves, I just thought that it might be interesting for one or the other, so I posted it.

I went through that. That is bonkers.
I am expecting more attempts to wrap themselves into mental pretzel.

 

[chris719]

I get top products with great results at half the price of Ravenol. Why should I pay more and possibly have to deal with the problems described above? Do I take Mobil1, Liqui Moly etc. I have not read anything about such problems in the forum so far, these are produced and analysed many times more often than Ravenol products.

Appreciate you bringing it to our attention, no doubt, but everyone can make mistakes. Shell had bottles where the VM or additive package was not mixed correctly. This is very bad though, they should address it.

 

[CivicFK2TypeR]

Haven't heard of Shell issues so far, sorry. In the end, everyone has to choose for themselves

You should also not forget that currently no one knows whether the oil manufacturer is really to blame, you can write a lot... so let's wait and see what else there is information...