Hi folks,
With all due respect, i am going to kindly suggest that those with no tolerance for rap music might skip down and start reading the bottom of this post.
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Music evolved from basic tribal beats and grunts to the works of Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Brahms.....etc. Rap, hip-hop, "R&B"....etc, these are all steps back toward where music came from. And seemingly in-step with society's own deconstruction.
It doesn't take much to see the correlation between thugs/gangs and tribes. Nor that between rap/hip-hop/R&B and tribal/war dances/music. Guns (spears), money (gold), "hoes" (harem)... all very "basic" and primitive. Spoken in rhyme to a basic beat to bring the blood of the audience up and get them ready for the hunt/war/attack.
Appreciate much of your post.
It reminded me of hearing a rap song and liking the song (which was NOT beastie boys, btw). Then buying the album and HATING the same song. I no longer liked that rap song.
Why?
Because i was liking the music in the "radio version" that had much of the curses and other words blocked out. I liked the rhythm and beat. But i was not liking the message on the uncut version.
I'm not arguing for censorship in general.
Regarding Beasties and rap in general
Originally Posted By: MrHorspwer
The cast that they worked with was phenomenal: Rick Rubin and Def Jam, the Dust Brothers on Paul's Boutique, Spike Jonze did a bunch of video work for Ill Communication. They wrote the book on sampling (and were likely the first to be sued for it).
All music they wanted to make, on their own schedule, without commercial record company meddling.
On that subject i will say that I appreciate producers who want to give you a "FULL" album/CD done by their artist. I appreicate when every track on the CD is meant to be worth a listen. Hence Rick Ruben and Def Jam were my kind of producers. OTHER producers allegedly have far less integrity -- allegedly OTHER producers of rap music are notorious for lacking integrity.
I'm tempted to think that those who like rap music and those who don't like rap music might agree on one thing. We don't like music producers who will have their artists surround ONE genuinely good song with 11 tracks of poop just to make a quick buck.
We all like good music. I'll argue that none of us like poop which is over marketed to the general public.
forgive the longwindedness,
[started a new thread because i don't think that this post necessarily needs to have anything to do with those paying respect or disrespect to the recently deceased. and that's neither a subtle poke nor praise at anyone else's post. it's just my opinion]
With all due respect, i am going to kindly suggest that those with no tolerance for rap music might skip down and start reading the bottom of this post.
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Music evolved from basic tribal beats and grunts to the works of Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Brahms.....etc. Rap, hip-hop, "R&B"....etc, these are all steps back toward where music came from. And seemingly in-step with society's own deconstruction.
It doesn't take much to see the correlation between thugs/gangs and tribes. Nor that between rap/hip-hop/R&B and tribal/war dances/music. Guns (spears), money (gold), "hoes" (harem)... all very "basic" and primitive. Spoken in rhyme to a basic beat to bring the blood of the audience up and get them ready for the hunt/war/attack.
Appreciate much of your post.
It reminded me of hearing a rap song and liking the song (which was NOT beastie boys, btw). Then buying the album and HATING the same song. I no longer liked that rap song.
Why?
Because i was liking the music in the "radio version" that had much of the curses and other words blocked out. I liked the rhythm and beat. But i was not liking the message on the uncut version.
I'm not arguing for censorship in general.
Regarding Beasties and rap in general
Originally Posted By: MrHorspwer
The cast that they worked with was phenomenal: Rick Rubin and Def Jam, the Dust Brothers on Paul's Boutique, Spike Jonze did a bunch of video work for Ill Communication. They wrote the book on sampling (and were likely the first to be sued for it).
All music they wanted to make, on their own schedule, without commercial record company meddling.
On that subject i will say that I appreciate producers who want to give you a "FULL" album/CD done by their artist. I appreicate when every track on the CD is meant to be worth a listen. Hence Rick Ruben and Def Jam were my kind of producers. OTHER producers allegedly have far less integrity -- allegedly OTHER producers of rap music are notorious for lacking integrity.
I'm tempted to think that those who like rap music and those who don't like rap music might agree on one thing. We don't like music producers who will have their artists surround ONE genuinely good song with 11 tracks of poop just to make a quick buck.
We all like good music. I'll argue that none of us like poop which is over marketed to the general public.
forgive the longwindedness,
[started a new thread because i don't think that this post necessarily needs to have anything to do with those paying respect or disrespect to the recently deceased. and that's neither a subtle poke nor praise at anyone else's post. it's just my opinion]
