Quick lube epic fail

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Originally Posted By: FXjohn
there are horror stories but most people actually get an oil change. gee. ever check your oil pressure gauge?

Most cars don't have either oil pressure or oil temperature gauge.

Tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of vehicles are serviced at quick lubes every day, the errors are less than 1%, may be less than 0.1%, and nobody talking about a smooth oil change without any problem. But 1 error at 1 quick lube then everybody blame the whole quick lube industry.

I never had my car at any quick lube for anything, I mostly change oil myself and I don't have any interest in any quick lube.
 
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
Yup it happens, people are human, even oil changers. Honestly if the filter was finger tight it should have shot right off and blew all the oil out of the engine at initial startup.


We are all human. I know that many diy's have done the same type of things. Double Gasket, not tight enough,forgot the drain plug, etc. Remember that oil change guys change oil so many more times than diy's at home, that it increases the chance of a mess up. Stuff happens, could have happened anywhere or with anyone.

I see people bring in vehicles ALL the time that they were working on, and you would be amazed by all of the screwed up things people do when they are trying to work on things them self also.

It is what it is
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I understand we are all human (I look in the mirror every day) but I still cannot accept the philosophy, "These guys are min wage, have only enough training to make them dangerous so it is gonna happen." Want to use that logic on the right seater on your next airline flight (who by the way is not making that much [at first] either) and may not have ALL THAT MANY flying hours or the intern who sees you in the emergency room at your hospital?
 
Originally Posted By: pscholte
I understand we are all human (I look in the mirror every day) but I still cannot accept the philosophy, "These guys are min wage, have only enough training to make them dangerous so it is gonna happen." Want to use that logic on the right seater on your next airline flight (who by the way is not making that much [at first] either) and may not have ALL THAT MANY flying hours or the intern who sees you in the emergency room at your hospital?

Doctors made mistakes too, some patients had wrong limb amputated, operating tools left inside body ...
 
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR

Doctors made mistakes too, some patients had wrong limb amputated, operating tools left inside body ...


wow, way to be dense, congratulations
 
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Originally Posted By: pscholte
I understand we are all human (I look in the mirror every day) but I still cannot accept the philosophy, "These guys are min wage, have only enough training to make them dangerous so it is gonna happen." Want to use that logic on the right seater on your next airline flight (who by the way is not making that much [at first] either) and may not have ALL THAT MANY flying hours or the intern who sees you in the emergency room at your hospital?

Doctors made mistakes too, some patients had wrong limb amputated, operating tools left inside body ...


hehehe...i dont know if you intended it or not, but i got a kick out of that :p thank you.

Edit: i can see how someone would read that the wrong way...i mean i got a kick out of you finding error in that too :p
 
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Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Originally Posted By: pscholte
I understand we are all human (I look in the mirror every day) but I still cannot accept the philosophy, "These guys are min wage, have only enough training to make them dangerous so it is gonna happen." Want to use that logic on the right seater on your next airline flight (who by the way is not making that much [at first] either) and may not have ALL THAT MANY flying hours or the intern who sees you in the emergency room at your hospital?

Doctors made mistakes too, some patients had wrong limb amputated, operating tools left inside body ...



Hey its true though, and i am guessing rarely a surgeon could make a mistake during an operation and kill a patient and no one would even know for sure.

Epic fails get more attention than the millions of successes; its almost like we expect perfection from imperfect beings?

Either way its a good reason to change your oil yourself, because its your car, you are going to obviously take more pride in it than any random guy, and you get the benefit of knowing it was done right with the right products.
 
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
Hey its true though, and i am guessing rarely a surgeon could make a mistake during an operation and kill a patient and no one would even know for sure.

The difference is, though, that regardless of level of education, surgery is simply more complicated than an oil change. I can change the oil in a Chevy small block without looking, except to position the drain pan. Hence, I don't have a lot of patience for people screwing it up royally with their eyes open.

I don't know of any surgeons who would do even a routine operation with their eyes closed.
 
One of the Jiffy's I drive by a lot, I always slow a bit and check it out as I drive by. Always new workers. Looks like young kids almost every time.
Other day, one was out at the street curb, pants hanging down like he had a big load. Sometime flashing gang signs & yelling out at passing traffic for oil changes.
Sometimes I just don't get it.

Two other fast lube places seems to keep the workers for some time. If I had to use one, I know which I'd try & which to totally avoid.
Now we have a Firestone Complete Auto Car that recently opened (couple weeks ago). I can't see in the bay area's driving by. I'd have to actually pull into the parking just to see. They built it sideways so-2-speak.
 
Keep the quick lube horror stories coming, i love em.

Do you guys recall a story about a quick lube receiving a bulk container or bar and chain oil instead of motor oil and using it in many engines?

Not the lube jockeys fault exactly, but one good reason to know whats going in your engine.
 
Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
Been on BITOG long enough to realize if an oil change without 100% accuracy classifies some one as an idiot, they there are a lot hanging out right here on the board, myself included.


Yup. There sure are a lot of perfect people here at BITOG. They never make mistakes and they know everything.
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Originally Posted By: cooper_m22
Yes people are only human But.
My father who used to always change his own oil tried out the new Jeffy Lube in town back in 1990. Some how they forgot to even put any oil in the car. (1990 Corvette ZR1) with only 9000 miles on it. Good thing is he never even made it out of the place before he seen there was know oil pressure.(He was mad) that is why I have always changed my own oil. And my fathers oil now.
How can someone forget oil.


Please don't take offense, but anyone getting a Corvette ZR1 oil change at an iffy lube is penny wise and pound foolish.

Kinda like farmers putting the cheapest oil possible in a $200K combine to "save" money.
 
What I don't understand is the job of the service rep. He/she is the first contact with the customer and gets all the heat when a job is not done right. So, why is it not in their job description to physically inspect a vehicle before it is turned over to the customer. Yes, loose plug or filter would not be found but certainly a dipstick, filler cap off, antifreeze left all over the engine would be seen and cleaned up before the customer got the car back. Sort of quality control but no dealership I have ever gone to has the service rep look at the car after being serviced. Yes, I also look under the hood before driving off from a dealership and seen many messes under the hood, glue left on windshield from old inspection stickers that should have been cleaned off and look terrible.
 
Originally Posted By: pscholte
I understand we are all human (I look in the mirror every day) but I still cannot accept the philosophy, "These guys are min wage, have only enough training to make them dangerous so it is gonna happen." Want to use that logic on the right seater on your next airline flight (who by the way is not making that much [at first] either) and may not have ALL THAT MANY flying hours or the intern who sees you in the emergency room at your hospital?


I agree. If that's the case and they hire low pay, limited skilled or unskilled help, then the manager should check each and every car before it leaves the shop for mistakes. That doesn't happen though. IMO it is not the responsibility of owner of the car to check, that is why you go to professional shops, they are supposed to do the job right. I stay clear of those places because it has become evident to me that the people working there don't care and their managers care even less.
 
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