I'm surprised we haven't been accused of Kumbaya yet.
Quick Lube Strikes Again!
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Oil changes are such an important maintenance items to do for your car.Its unfortunate, but seems these things happen way too often at Quick Lube places.Happy he found you and got the problem solved at a very reasonable price.
I was wondering the same thing.
So after spending too much time on YT it looks like it can mash/damage/fold/spindle/mutilate the bypass valve integrated into the cap on the later design.
If I'm understanding correctly-- and that is dubious given my adolescent paint chip consumption-- the engine is not actually without pressure but the sending unit is looking at the infamous filter housing.
Here's something from Amsoil:
And related from my favorite we-dress-like-an-F1-pit-crew-so-we-must-be-awesome. Guys. Check it out guys. Ok guys. Ok Ok. Guys:
If I'm understanding correctly-- and that is dubious given my adolescent paint chip consumption-- the engine is not actually without pressure but the sending unit is looking at the infamous filter housing.
Here's something from Amsoil:
And related from my favorite we-dress-like-an-F1-pit-crew-so-we-must-be-awesome. Guys. Check it out guys. Ok guys. Ok Ok. Guys:
I could not find the orange cap available seperately, atleast thru my regular parts provider.
Judging by this cutaway, the wrong filter probably blocks either the oil supply or return ports.
Talk to your boys at Dorman
Also the Amsoil guy seems to reco the Dorman replacement cap near the end of the vid. Me, I'm not sure I trust Dorman to build a bypass valve. It has a moving part so that's probably asking a lot from them
Will never understand why anyone at anytime would ever buy a product from this company. Your choice as to which company I mean.
I would actually chance the Dorman Al housing, as much as I badmouth them. I don't think it can be any worse than the OEM plastic -- although it may not be better.
I would say an even better bet than avoiding Dorman is avoiding Quick Lube places.
Agree with your statement but in this case their part was "an improved design" over stock but then their execution of the product to market caused a whole situation of confusion when it comes to servicing the filter portion on pre'13 model years....so guess to your point I can see why we may be better off not using it
These quick lube places must be eating engines left and right. I was working on a newer 330i with the B48 motor, the filter has to be installed into the housing first, not the cap…….then screw the cap on. I can see a lot of crushed/broken filters happening with this.
I'm surprised VIOC is balking at such a small claim payout. They're lucky they're not on the hook for an engine. Although they try to minimize them, claims are a cost of lube centers doing business. The amount of bad will they'll get isn't worth the less than $100 repair tab.
Maybe there's bulletproof language in the fine print on the work order the customer signs. Something that addresses non-OEM components.
Maybe there's bulletproof language in the fine print on the work order the customer signs. Something that addresses non-OEM components.
JHZR2
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Seriously. I’d be pushing this through their corporate and possibly small claims just for the fact that they put my engine at risk.
I just found this on a 10R80 filter -- you really need to install the filter seal first, then put the filter into that.
I tried it the wrong way and was not pleased with how it seated, but with a combination of muscle and impatience you could convince yourself it's "ok".
I doubt shops are putting their top people on spill 'n fills so I have to wonder how many lube techs are doing it incorrectly everyday. And many more to come as many of these transmissions are just beginning to hit mileages where people consider servicing them.
I, too, did it wrong but had the luxury of time to research and correct my mistake. If you're in a busy shop with a parking lot full of cars and a boss asking why you're so slow it's a different story.
When we used VIOC the only thing they were good at was yelling about people standing inside their stupid “yellow lines” making sure they didn’t screw up anything! Although, when they yanked the oil filter nipple out of my company 4.6 E-250 (caused by their knucklehead techs overtightening the filter) they had no problem with me helping fix it with my Loctite & pipe wrench! Those boneheads would NEVER touch ANYTHING of mine!!
You’re making the assumption these “technicians” can actually read…
I don’t think the internals of the filter housing are the same. It’s not just the cap that’s different.
