I have been reading alot, and what not, and found that the Premium plus flows much better, and has good filtration, and theres the fact that is costs less. Is there any real reason why I should continue to use Pure Ones?
Purolator Premium Plus Vs. Pure One
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How much more oil is going to flow in your specific application by switching?
I'd venture to guess the "better" filter still flows as much as your pump will put out.
I'd venture to guess the "better" filter still flows as much as your pump will put out.
Let me ask this way, does the better filtration of the pure one justify using it over thr better flowing, ok filtering premium plus? I am basically beating myself up trying to make up my mind to continue usings the Pure ones or to use the premium plus's because of the better flow and lesser cost.
IMO, it depends on what oil and change interval you are running. If you are using conventional or semi-syn oil with a relatively short OCI, the Premium Plus should be fine. If you are using a synth oil with a > than 6 month OCI, I would go with the the Pure One due to the better filter media and silicone ADBV. My
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I'll agree with RedDart here. My thought would lean toward not wasting the money on a superior filter over such a short span. Why bother? Now if you're going to leave the filter on ..then ..sure..go for the PureOne.
Stress not - both are good filters. As a general rule, short OCI means you can use cheap filter. Long OCI's mean you buy the expensive filter. Both will give you a clean and happy engine.
A simple back to back UOA comparison run will answer your question.
I also don't see the need for fancy filters with extended or long OCIs. Truly, if you worry about filtration, you need bypass filtration. Since aftermarket filters are made to perform equivalently to OEM specs, then any filter should be good enough for any OEM recommended OCI.
If in budget, there isn't a rea$on not to use the expensive filter with short OCI's either.
Either prove the 'your selection' with UOAs, or just flip a coin and not worry about it.
In my daily driver, when you pop the hood, the oil filter just stares at you. The pureone just looks prettier in the clean engine compartment. Its purely aesthetic.
My truck, which is capable of covering the filter in grime, mud, dirt, and various fluid run off...... is perfectly happy with the supertech filter, which also can't be seen with the hood up.
My summer car gets the Napa gold because it compares well to the underhood looks. It blends in with the engine bay very well where the 'colored'(pureone/fram) filters stick out annoyingly.
I also don't see the need for fancy filters with extended or long OCIs. Truly, if you worry about filtration, you need bypass filtration. Since aftermarket filters are made to perform equivalently to OEM specs, then any filter should be good enough for any OEM recommended OCI.
If in budget, there isn't a rea$on not to use the expensive filter with short OCI's either.
Either prove the 'your selection' with UOAs, or just flip a coin and not worry about it.
In my daily driver, when you pop the hood, the oil filter just stares at you. The pureone just looks prettier in the clean engine compartment. Its purely aesthetic.
My truck, which is capable of covering the filter in grime, mud, dirt, and various fluid run off...... is perfectly happy with the supertech filter, which also can't be seen with the hood up.
My summer car gets the Napa gold because it compares well to the underhood looks. It blends in with the engine bay very well where the 'colored'(pureone/fram) filters stick out annoyingly.
The Pure One is painted in metallic blue. Would suitably accessorize a Ford blue paint scheme. But if I used that strategy for my Chevy I would have to consider Frams as they would match my Chevy orange paint scheme under the hood, and that is ot agreeable with me. Oh well, I will just have to live with what people will say about orange and blue living together.
I wouldn't use a Pure One in a higher mile Olds if your question is related to your 10 year old car. Extra filtration of abrasives isn't going to make any difference in how many more years or miles you run that car.
I'd be more likely to use the Pureone in a new car. Right now I use the Bosch ( purolators) when they're 2 for 1 or the regular purolator at $2 at Pepboys after rebate. The only part of my rebate Pepboys seems to get right is the Purolator filter rebate.
I'd be more likely to use the Pureone in a new car. Right now I use the Bosch ( purolators) when they're 2 for 1 or the regular purolator at $2 at Pepboys after rebate. The only part of my rebate Pepboys seems to get right is the Purolator filter rebate.
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I have been reading alot, and what not, and found that the Premium plus flows much better, and has good filtration, and theres the fact that is costs less. Is there any real reason why I should continue to use Pure Ones?
Start your Aveo off with an approved filter that's on sale. Then stock-up on Pure Ones when they have a sale. I keep my filter stash in a temp/humidity controlled basement - under the steps. Good for many years that way.
You can get Napa Golds also for around $4 from fleetfilter.com. Buy several to off-set small shipping cost.
Humm...I never thought about COLOR SCHEME's before when selecting filters.
I MUST be missing something. At least that is what my wife keeps telling me.....
I MUST be missing something. At least that is what my wife keeps telling me.....
If you plan to go for a longer OCI one option may be to use an oversize PureOne, if there is room for it. The increased surface area helps offset the restriction of the finer filter. I cross referenced your Aveo on the Baldwin site for an oversize option and back to Purolator. It looks like the PL24011 is a long version of the PL10111 and should give you somewhat better flow (if it fits...)
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Everyone without mechanical issues can forget about "flow". If you want standard filtration ..get the P+ ..if you want superior filtration get the P1 ...if you've got a yen for Purolator, that is
"is perfectly happy with the supertech filter, which also can't be seen with the hood up".
When I use SuperTech filters, I just peel off the labels. They look nice n purdy in shiny black
When I use SuperTech filters, I just peel off the labels. They look nice n purdy in shiny black
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"is perfectly happy with the supertech filter, which also can't be seen with the hood up".
When I use SuperTech filters, I just peel off the labels. They look nice n purdy in shiny black
Hmm...to the untrained eye ..they could be mistaken for a M1 filter that's just facing the wrong way
Faux filter.....
Thanks for this info. Would you happen to know the number of the oversized Mobil 1 filters?
I decided to use a Mobil 1 filter, and I am probably going to extend my OCI to 7500 which is the highest my manual states is alowed.
In my opinion, both filters will flow the identical volume of oil in your application for a given rpm.
It is my understanding automotive oil pumps are positive displacement (PD) pumps, therefore will pump a fixed volume of oil at a stated rpm regardless of the filter sitting on the discharge side.
Now with respect to the filters, the pressure drop across the more restrictive filter--the PureOne in this case--will be greater in order to achieve the same flow rate. But that does not mean it will flow less. Essentialy the flow rate is fixed and the pressure differential will be whatever it has to be to pass that volume of oil.
If the pressure drop across the filter is too great, then the bypass valve will open.
Filter manufacturers at times present their data in a less than helpful fashion, which can lead consumers to incorrect assumptions. I agree with Gary Allen, pick your filter based upon its filtering qualities, better or mo better.
It is my understanding automotive oil pumps are positive displacement (PD) pumps, therefore will pump a fixed volume of oil at a stated rpm regardless of the filter sitting on the discharge side.
Now with respect to the filters, the pressure drop across the more restrictive filter--the PureOne in this case--will be greater in order to achieve the same flow rate. But that does not mean it will flow less. Essentialy the flow rate is fixed and the pressure differential will be whatever it has to be to pass that volume of oil.
If the pressure drop across the filter is too great, then the bypass valve will open.
Filter manufacturers at times present their data in a less than helpful fashion, which can lead consumers to incorrect assumptions. I agree with Gary Allen, pick your filter based upon its filtering qualities, better or mo better.
From the Purolator and Mobil sites, it appears the M1-201 is the oversize equivalent to the PL24011. by the way, the Purolator filter site says the normal (and oversize) filters for the Aveo have no pressure relief valve. I think this means the engine has one built in. I assume this may help relieve any fears that remain about danger of oil starvation on cold startup. One other possible advantage to oversize filters which I seem to recall was stated on this site before (Gary Allan?) is that the oil velocity through the media is reduced somewhat. Apparently this may help the media retain more captured particles and prevent them from "blowing through". Others may want to chime in on these ideas...
I like both filters.
Well...My last three PPP filters have had ADBV failures at about 7k to 8k miles into my 10k OCI. I was considering going to a M1 filter but now I wonder if a Pure One would last longer?
How do I figure out if I can buy a longer filter for my car?
Thanks! (2000 Cavalier, 2.4L DOHC, 146,000 miles)
How do I figure out if I can buy a longer filter for my car?
Thanks! (2000 Cavalier, 2.4L DOHC, 146,000 miles)
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