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Originally Posted By: dnewton3
Ah, yes, the typical thread ...
"Hey - something bad happened, but I took a shotgun and blasted a solution at it. What do you think the problem was?"
I agree at face value, the filter in the picture would be at least the first suspected cause.
Allow me to offer some advice with rational perspective.
Anytime someone suspects a filter is causing a ticking/noise/etc problem, do these, in this order:
1) don't panic and start changing stuff; think your way through this
2) go get another filter; check it and prep for install
3) remove the suspected filter; set aside but do NOT destroy, cut, weld, hit, bang, poke at it. Don't BITOG it; just have patience. Put it on the bench and carefully cover it up with care. Do NOT change the oil. Repeat, do NOT change the oil. One variable at a time, guys and gals.
4) install new filter; top off the oil to compensate the loss of filter volume; try to use something super comparable to what came out
5) start engine; listen; drive. Is it the same? Has it changed?
6) regardless if the noise came or went, prepare for more changes ...
7) take off "new" filter; reinstall "old" filter
8) refill again, test again, observe again
9) take off "old"; reinstall "new"
10) top off and test again
If the filter changes do not make the concern come and go, then put the old filter back on, and THEN change oil. See if that helps. I have been known to reuse oil when diagnosing. Just use a super-clean vessel to "catch and release" so to speak. Most of you are anal-retentive in your near-clinical approach to OCIs; why should there be concern?
Why do all this? Because if the first filter is really at fault, then you should be able to remove and install the "problem" and control the cause. If not, you've not found the issue yet. There is nothing in the filter that should be so sensitive that a simple remove/install will "fix" whatever you perceive is wrong. Doing so isn't going to realign the ADBV, or make a BP valve spring suddenly dislodge and re-seat, etc ...
Try to analyze the situation, and take one step at a time, and see if you can manipulate the effect by controlling the potential cause, one variable at a time.
Or, BITOG it with a shot-gun approach and never know for sure ....
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this is what i did ! i used mobil 1 before and after. i used a purolator filter forthe first time on this car. same oil both times, different filter the second time and problem was gone. i will never buy another purolator filter, ever . cheap junk after looking at these things. much better filters out there for the same money.
Ah, yes, the typical thread ...
"Hey - something bad happened, but I took a shotgun and blasted a solution at it. What do you think the problem was?"
I agree at face value, the filter in the picture would be at least the first suspected cause.
Allow me to offer some advice with rational perspective.
Anytime someone suspects a filter is causing a ticking/noise/etc problem, do these, in this order:
1) don't panic and start changing stuff; think your way through this
2) go get another filter; check it and prep for install
3) remove the suspected filter; set aside but do NOT destroy, cut, weld, hit, bang, poke at it. Don't BITOG it; just have patience. Put it on the bench and carefully cover it up with care. Do NOT change the oil. Repeat, do NOT change the oil. One variable at a time, guys and gals.
4) install new filter; top off the oil to compensate the loss of filter volume; try to use something super comparable to what came out
5) start engine; listen; drive. Is it the same? Has it changed?
6) regardless if the noise came or went, prepare for more changes ...
7) take off "new" filter; reinstall "old" filter
8) refill again, test again, observe again
9) take off "old"; reinstall "new"
10) top off and test again
If the filter changes do not make the concern come and go, then put the old filter back on, and THEN change oil. See if that helps. I have been known to reuse oil when diagnosing. Just use a super-clean vessel to "catch and release" so to speak. Most of you are anal-retentive in your near-clinical approach to OCIs; why should there be concern?
Why do all this? Because if the first filter is really at fault, then you should be able to remove and install the "problem" and control the cause. If not, you've not found the issue yet. There is nothing in the filter that should be so sensitive that a simple remove/install will "fix" whatever you perceive is wrong. Doing so isn't going to realign the ADBV, or make a BP valve spring suddenly dislodge and re-seat, etc ...
Try to analyze the situation, and take one step at a time, and see if you can manipulate the effect by controlling the potential cause, one variable at a time.
Or, BITOG it with a shot-gun approach and never know for sure ....
.
this is what i did ! i used mobil 1 before and after. i used a purolator filter forthe first time on this car. same oil both times, different filter the second time and problem was gone. i will never buy another purolator filter, ever . cheap junk after looking at these things. much better filters out there for the same money.