Originally Posted By: goodtimes
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: goodtimes
The USA made, I would keep and use, what they are they are. Maybe Proto can replace them. $20 or $40 is not a lot of money to buy the materials, fashion the parts, assemble the parts, and deliver. Besides paying taxes, employing workers, paying workers ss, medicare, and benefits. Administrative, sales, offices, office materials, marketing, vehicles, energy costs, on and on.
The calipers I would, for $10 worth of pleasure, bend them in half in a vise and put in the trash, or recycling. It costs $10 to mail them somewhere, let alone make them. I don't know if many people feel like this, but I do.
Do you feel the same about all the chinese goods you use daily?
I won't answer that, but what I am saying/feeling in a nutshell is this kind of tool for $10 that NO ONE can make in the USA, or any country that people have decent pay, represents dumping goods to take market share. The materials cost more than that. Having worked all my life and enjoyed the laws of 40 hour work weeks, health benefits, social security, medicare, etc, I APPRECIATE other people's lives and work just like I wanted to have. So yes even though this is made in Taiwan not China, I would bend it over in a vise for $10 pleasure.
Goods made in other countries that are fairly priced, manufactured fairly, and sold fairly, that is a different story, no problem with that, that is fair competition. This situation is a deindustrialization of other countries through dumping cheap goods. It is already seen that Chinese goods are going up in price and quality, why, because they have less and less competition as companies close shop. Soon the prices will be the way they were before the dumping, but no more industry capable of competing, and then they have their cake and eat it too.
Actually in my case I buy USA, Japanese, German, or Swiss tools, used or new on ebay, instead.
Does this enclude your computer, home electronice, shoes, ect.?
Oh, I know, we won't answer that.
Originally Posted By: jcwit
Originally Posted By: goodtimes
The USA made, I would keep and use, what they are they are. Maybe Proto can replace them. $20 or $40 is not a lot of money to buy the materials, fashion the parts, assemble the parts, and deliver. Besides paying taxes, employing workers, paying workers ss, medicare, and benefits. Administrative, sales, offices, office materials, marketing, vehicles, energy costs, on and on.
The calipers I would, for $10 worth of pleasure, bend them in half in a vise and put in the trash, or recycling. It costs $10 to mail them somewhere, let alone make them. I don't know if many people feel like this, but I do.
Do you feel the same about all the chinese goods you use daily?
I won't answer that, but what I am saying/feeling in a nutshell is this kind of tool for $10 that NO ONE can make in the USA, or any country that people have decent pay, represents dumping goods to take market share. The materials cost more than that. Having worked all my life and enjoyed the laws of 40 hour work weeks, health benefits, social security, medicare, etc, I APPRECIATE other people's lives and work just like I wanted to have. So yes even though this is made in Taiwan not China, I would bend it over in a vise for $10 pleasure.
Goods made in other countries that are fairly priced, manufactured fairly, and sold fairly, that is a different story, no problem with that, that is fair competition. This situation is a deindustrialization of other countries through dumping cheap goods. It is already seen that Chinese goods are going up in price and quality, why, because they have less and less competition as companies close shop. Soon the prices will be the way they were before the dumping, but no more industry capable of competing, and then they have their cake and eat it too.
Actually in my case I buy USA, Japanese, German, or Swiss tools, used or new on ebay, instead.
Does this enclude your computer, home electronice, shoes, ect.?
Oh, I know, we won't answer that.