I'd just be happy if anyone that has issues with these folks' videos would make some YT content to set the record straight.
Project Farm tests coolant boosters/water wetters
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I'll reach out to Scotty Kilmer today and we'll get a channel started.
Why not doing it yourself? It's pretty easy I mean I have one..everyone has a pocket-sized content creator with them at all times these days...
Anyone that runs a useless wear scar test on coolant and then posts it to his supposedly informative YouTube channel is either so far gone to be disregarded from that point on, incredibly ignorant, or completely sold out to monetization.
I’m reminded of the Far Side cartoon where the psychologist who is examining his patient writes on his note pad, “Just plain nuts!”
I’m reminded of the Far Side cartoon where the psychologist who is examining his patient writes on his note pad, “Just plain nuts!”
That will be an extra long vid with the undercoating cold temp race!!
I’d like to know which of these additives makes water the wettest.
Well, there is a distant link that if a coolant is leaking slowly into the engine, it might make a small difference.
If only a wear scar test was applicable to an engine.
Coolant is a bad engine lubricant no matter what the wear scar test happens to show.
The wear scar test does not account for all variables, but it can form the foundation for an argument from probability.
Just like mouse models in biology.
Barely relevant is not the same as complete irrelevance.
He said for the water pump
Oh - I guess I missed that in the video? I think what the coolants are saying w/r to "lubes water pump" really means "keeps the water pump seals lubed" or similar b/c as some have pointed out, the coolant shouldn't ever touch the bearing of the water pump through the seal. Whatever. I still liked the video
Even if it did, the way the test being run here is ridiculously inadequate. The actual ASTM test has low repeatability and reproducibility which leads to rather large error bars in the results. This goofball has no idea what constitutes a proper sample size for the test nor does he present the results in a proper format. This is common to these basement guys and this test. They have no clue what they are doing and even less of a clue as to how to present the results.
Yes this type of machine is used as a screening test for some engine lubricant ingredients, but not for a finished engine oil. But it is used in accordance with the relevant ASTM procedures and the results are analyzed and presented properly. The guy in this video is nothing but a clown in this regard.
Remember back in posts #4 and #21 in this thread where you and I discussed it? You thought it made perfect sense and then I pointed out the construction of the water pump was relevant?Oh - I guess I missed that in the video? I think what the coolants are saying w/r to "lubes water pump" really means "keeps the water pump seals lubed" or similar b/c as some have pointed out, the coolant shouldn't ever touch the bearing of the water pump through the seal. Whatever. I still liked the video
Admit it. You liked the video because at face value you felt it confirmed your own coolant concoction that is super necessary because of your demanding special track day application. So you figured the lubricity test was relevant, the sulfuric acid test was relevant, and that even the delta T setup was well done and actually told you what he told you it was telling you. You got science marketed to.
Bottom line is that only one of the coolant additives has a better wear scar test result than actual coolant. So if it really mattered that we not degrade the asserted important properties of coolant (see posts 25 and 28) then we'd just use...good coolant.
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Lighten up. Nobody would give a rats arse if they were not intrigued and super impressed with your video and comprehensive testing. The editing and amount of information crammed into that video was off the charts. Who else can produce a video that good and that educational then present it that fast? Maybe Lake Speed is a tie? Keep up the good work to prove and explain your understanding exactly like you do. I threw in my two cents on cavitation erosion and micro bubbles but I would have no clue on how to explain that or show it on a video so the that keyboard warriors would believe it. I hope all your vids gets millions of views and your get to live out the American dream from the profit!
Have you looked into ASTM test 2809? HD coolants are already evaluated for their ability to protect against cavitation erosion/corrosion. So the need for additives to address this does not exist. If coolants couldn't adequately protect against corrosion erosion, we'd be in sad shape.
PF stated in the first three seconds, "sometimes coolant just isn't good enough." The premise is that additives somehow resolve a need that coolants lack. Then he goes on to do three tests, none of which actually demonstrate property enhancement.
1) Only one additive bettered the 50/50 mix in the lubricity test.
2) The heat transfer test didn't control for room temperature or specific heat of the coolant. It merely measured delta T.
3) I don't even know what the sulfuric acid test was meant to replicate.
What was the hypothesis that was specifically tested for?
Wut?
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The hypothesis was to see how many clicks he could get on Youtube and to see how many heads would explode on the internet. All by just showing people that these products are out there and how they work….If he is really just a P.T Barnum then he is in cahoots with a company that is fixing to release a new product that addresses all of the weaknesses that he pointed out in his video. Do you remember that Charlatan that dis proved everything about K&N air filters and then put out a second video on diesel fuel additive that he was making profit from? I’m just glad people like them put out content that is at least worth viewing and discussing. This stuff is cheap and if it helps 2% then why not add it?
I just threw out a whole gallon of Evans Waterless Coolant. I even posted it for free on Marketplace. That stuff costs a fortune by the time you add the pre flush because you have to get out every single drop of old coolant and water. It might be good on a Jay Leno build when everything is worth a million and is brand new and dry. I ran it in water cooled KTM dirtbikes that were easy to dry out. It is the best in the Arizona desert that I live in but I use water wetter in everything else with that good Ford Diesel spec Zerex. Race buggy gets 20% Dexcool. Yes there is even a time and place for Dexcool believe it or not.
I just threw out a whole gallon of Evans Waterless Coolant. I even posted it for free on Marketplace. That stuff costs a fortune by the time you add the pre flush because you have to get out every single drop of old coolant and water. It might be good on a Jay Leno build when everything is worth a million and is brand new and dry. I ran it in water cooled KTM dirtbikes that were easy to dry out. It is the best in the Arizona desert that I live in but I use water wetter in everything else with that good Ford Diesel spec Zerex. Race buggy gets 20% Dexcool. Yes there is even a time and place for Dexcool believe it or not.
We need to lighten up and let science be science.
If that’s the case then his videos are even more worthless than I thought. Now it’s nefarious.
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