PQIA tests 0W-20 M1 and QSUD

[wemay]

http://www.pqiamerica.com/June 2014/exmoM1.htm

http://www.pqiamerica.com/June 2014/quakerstate.htm

 

[Roob]

Quite a big amount of moly in QSUD, anyone know if it's Di or Tri nuclear?
I like the boron in M1, pretty much non existent in QSUD, although it's calcium is more than double M1.
They both look good.

Thanks for posting them...

 

[wemay]

Originally Posted By: Roob
Quite a big amount of moly in QSUD, anyone know if it's Di or Tri nuclear?
I like the boron in M1, pretty much non existent in QSUD, although it's calcium is more than double M1.
They both look good.

Thanks for posting them...


Any time.
M1 also seems to value magnesium far more than QSUD. As you mention, they each look good though, Just different strokes...

 

[daves87rs]

Liking the QSUD quite a bit....

 

[901Memphis]

But did you guys see how awesome that AC Delco stuff is?

http://www.pqiamerica.com/June%202014/ACdelco.htm?utm_source=July+3%2C+2014&utm_campaign=7-3-2014&utm_medium=email

http://www.pqiamerica.com/

They also tested, Nexgen, Ace, Mag 1, and a few others.

 

[gregk24]

Thanks for posting, makes me confident in my choice of M1 AFE 0w20 for my next OCI. I like that shot of Boron!

 

[ElastoHydro]

Originally Posted By: Roob
Quite a big amount of moly in QSUD, anyone know if it's Di or Tri nuclear?
I like the boron in M1, pretty much non existent in QSUD, although it's calcium is more than double M1.
They both look good.

Thanks for posting them...


I think Molakule once said that all sopus oils like qsud use tri moly.

 

[dustyroads]

Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
But did you guys see how awesome that AC Delco stuff is?

http://www.pqiamerica.com/June%202014/ACdelco.htm?utm_source=July+3%2C+2014&utm_campaign=7-3-2014&utm_medium=email

http://www.pqiamerica.com/

They also tested, Nexgen, Ace, Mag 1, and a few others.


I'm with you! I just saw a uoa of AC DELCO 0W20 and loved it! They're using lots of boron and I love a certain boron heavy HDEO. The ACD oil is in a Mobil bottle so I'm guessing it's made by them, furthering my chances of trying it (even if I am a Ford man).

 

[crazyoildude]

I liked QSUD but stopped using it when the price started creeping up..i like sopus products for the most part but im not sure if QSUD cleans as good as pennzoil does or it may just be in my head that it don't because of the way they maarket it.. I wonder if the 5w20 is about the same...

 

[901Memphis]

Originally Posted By: dustyroads
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
But did you guys see how awesome that AC Delco stuff is?

http://www.pqiamerica.com/June%202014/ACdelco.htm?utm_source=July+3%2C+2014&utm_campaign=7-3-2014&utm_medium=email

http://www.pqiamerica.com/

They also tested, Nexgen, Ace, Mag 1, and a few others.


I'm with you! I just saw a uoa of AC DELCO 0W20 and loved it! They're using lots of boron and I love a certain boron heavy HDEO. The ACD oil is in a Mobil bottle so I'm guessing it's made by them, furthering my chances of trying it (even if I am a Ford man).

Unfortunately its the 5w30 they tested.

 

[dustyroads]

True but the 0w20 appears to have same additive package just different viscosity.

Well...the 0w20 has a little less of everything but it is very similar. Page 6 in the UOA's in a 2014 silverado. The boron shows much lower due to the miles of use.

 

[wemay]

Im guessing this means they're in the process of testing many other synthetic and synthetic blend 5W/0W-20's in a segment of 'rounds'. I hope so.

 

[CATERHAM]

Nice to see PQIA is now testing some 0W-20's.
M1 does appear to be lower on AW additive levels vs the others but they are in a league of their own (as we've always known) when it comes to extreme cold start performance.
What impressed me is how close the KV spec's are to what the oil companies claim on their PDSs.

 

[EdwardC]

Woohoo, looking forward to a round of 0w20 tests. Got QSUD in the element and AFE in the civic right now.

 

[jrustles]

Respectable NOACK values for 0w20

Originally Posted By: EdwardC
Woohoo, looking forward to a round of 0w20 tests.


Oh yes!

 

[buster]

Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
Nice to see PQIA is now testing some 0W-20's.
M1 does appear to be lower on AW additive levels vs the others but they are in a league of their own (as we've always known) when it comes to extreme cold start performance.
What impressed me is how close the KV spec's are to what the oil companies claim on their PDSs.


+1

 

[Ram01]

QSUD looks good

 

[Ram01]

But let's not rule out Castrol EDGE another great oil in the 5w20 flavor

 

[KCJeep]

I see Valvoline got their Nextgen 5w20 NOACK issue fixed.

 

[wemay]

Originally Posted By: KCJeep
I see Valvoline got their Nextgen 5w20 NOACK issue fixed.


I think the Nextgen sample with the issue was dino.