PPPP 10w30, what's not to like here?

[wemay]

TYPICAL PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS
Properties Method Pennzoil Platinum®
10W-30 Full Synthetic Motor oil with PurePlus™ Technology
SAE Viscosity Grade SAE J300 10w30
API Service Category SN ILSAC GF-5 ACEA -
Density g/cm3 0.843
Flash Point °C ASTM D93 224
Pour Point °C ASTM D97 -48
Viscosity @ 40°C cSt ASTM D445 63.3
Viscosity @ 100°C cSt ASTM D445 10.3
Viscosity Index ASTM D2270 150
CCS Viscosity @-30°C cP ASTM D5293 4,150 (-25)
MRV Viscosity @-35°C cP ASTM D4684 8,500 (-30)
Noack Volatility % ASTM D5800 4.7

These characteristics are typical of current production. Whilst future production will conform to Shell’s specification, variations in these characteristics

 

[Padawan]

You'll probably get some individuals telling you the "10W" makes it unsuitable for anyone who doesn't live on Venus.

 

[901Memphis]

It's a fine oil but you can do better for cold performance.

 

[wemay]

For much colder climates, I can understand, but for most of the lower 48, I see no issue. Especially if your car specs, as mine allows, 10W30. For those worried about NOACK, 4.7% is a fantastic number as well.

 

[skyactiv]

Imagine all the extra cold start up wear you'll get using that over a 5W30. That's a big SIKE in South Florida.

 

[wemay]

Originally Posted By: skyactiv
Imagine all the extra cold start up wear you'll get using that over a 5W30. That's a big SIKE in South Florida.

 

[Rolla07]

Is that NOACK accurate? That's even lower than the old PU... I might have trouble accepting that..

 

[KCJeep]

Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Is that NOACK accurate? That's even lower than the old PU... I might have trouble accepting that..


Most likely is, lower NOACK's are common for 10w30's. I imagine the P4 5w30 is not that low.

 

[tstep]

Interesting. Any info on the HTHS?

 

[wemay]

Nope, that value wasnt present in the link.

 

[tstep]

Thanks. I've seen that before and Shell did not include HTHS on that PDS. Also no ACEA for guidance either. Wondering if the low NOACK implies a slightly higher HTHS than the 3.1-3.2 that past 10w30 oils were typically rated.

 

[901Memphis]

You would think it would be fine in the lower 48 until things happen like they did this winter and one day you go outside where it hardly ever gets to 0 and its -20F outside then the 10w30 with a less than perfect battery can't crank the vehicle.

 

[hattaresguy]

Most modern motors are going to a 20wt, but on the flip side it seems like all modern small engines are going to a 10w30.

5w30 and 30wt are heading into the largely obsolete bin with 10w40.

Looks like a good oil for my small engines, my lawnmower is due for a change!

 

[jrustles]

Times like this that I thank the oil dieties that SAE 10w30 grade is still available. On a quality oil like this, even the CCS values are proper, without being explicitly formulated for it. That NOACK beats Redline's equivalent offering! Let's see if this is the final PDS revision

 

[901Memphis]

Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Most modern motors are going to a 20wt, but on the flip side it seems like all modern small engines are going to a 10w30.

5w30 and 30wt are heading into the largely obsolete bin with 10w40.

Looks like a good oil for my small engines, my lawnmower is due for a change!


5w30 isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[Lex94]

The PPwPP 10w30 TBN is too low to use on Venus. Please do a little research before posting nonsense.

 

[wemay]

...and to be clear, Hyundai's recommendation is 5W30 or 10W30 for the SFS 2.0T, not
just 10W30. Sorry if I confused the matter.

 

[pbm]

Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
It's a fine oil but you can do better for cold performance.


I scored a couple of OCI's worth of old PU 10w30 at the AZ clearance late last year.
At what temp's would it make a difference?
(I plan on using it as a warm weather fill in my Cruze 1.4T which specs a dexos1)

 

[A_Harman]

10W oils are rated for cold flow at -30C (-22F), and PU's cold pumpability is far below the allowable limit at that temperature.

 

[Lex94]

What's remarkable is the much lower NOACK of the 10w30 over the same in 5w30. With the 10W, you will have less polymers/plastic/rubber (lower VI) in your oil but still really nice CCS/MRV and all.