AUS gets so many of the really cool things, like the Barra I6, for example. That thing destroys the Coyote we got stuck with.
Porsche Taycan Nurburgring Lap Record
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Because Porsche likes to win is the snarky answer. The more realistic answer is because I can clearly see that they are Pirelli Trofeo RS tires.
https://www.pirelli.com/tyres/en-ww/motorsport/all-tyres/products-sheet/p-zero-trofeo-rs
No-one runs Goodyear except for contractual obligations and so forth. GM got stuck with that on the C6's, and it looks like Kia did with the EV6 GT, CONUS, but like I said, they get good tires OCONUS because there is no contractual obligation for those markets. I remember trying to sell my Goodyear's off my GT and literally couldn't give them away. Everyone tracking the car hated them and just replaced them with a better tire, ultimately. I heard from many they wouldn't even hook up in under 50*f, and Edmund's couldn't even turn a 0-60 without burning rubber/a smoke show, and then it was an absurdly slow 3.6-3.7. The reason C&D and MT did better is they use a much sticker track than Edmund's street type surfaces. Also, Edmund's includes the 60'.
So anyway, I am curious what this car would turn on daily drivable tires and not an RS. Not that I'm trying to denigrate it, I am glad that Porsche has gotten their ducks in a row and are producing such a beast!
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I screenshotted it for you.
Porsche must not have gotten the message on how bad Goodyears are. The GT3s run them, I personally drove one with Goodyears.
Porsche knows. Goodyear just doesn't have the goods, man, I dunno what to tell you other than to show you example after example when you say "Oh, this one does well on it..." of that very one using *Not Goodyear* for its ACTUAL timed runs.
https://www.tiretechnologyinternati...chieves-blistering-nordschleife-lap-time.html
https://www.michelin.com/en/press-r...e-fitted-with-michelin-pilot-sport-cup-tires/
I'm sure they're fine, but they're not who winners count on, apparently, or Porsche would have used them to set that car's ring time, instead of using Michelins and making them an available upgrade.
Seems a lot of people haven’t got the message.
Wonder what happens when you compare to to the Cup 2R. You know, just keeping the "R" family tires together and all....
No, I'm just saying noone sets 'Ring records with Goodyears. Once you get away from R compound tires, Goodyears just disappear in the RVM. With R compounds, yeah, I bet they perform like a race car tire. Just not QUITE as good as others.
Omega diesels were a great car, a friend of mine had a Senator coupe with the 3.0 straight 6, that was a nice car too.
This is all I need to know.
The Goodyear is just at home on the dry track. I get a lot of questions on the Tyre Reviews website asking what's my recommendation for the best road tyre to use on track days, and people always seem surprised when I say the F1 SuperSport. Stop being surprised, it is awesome. Quick steering, loads of lateral grip, lovely controllability at the limit, yes it's not quite as easy to drive at the limit as the Conti, which leads the group, but it's fun and fast. It's not the best in the wet anymore, but it handles the heat of track driving so well, it's great. Fit this tyre if you're looking for a road tyre that will take abuse of track days, it's just a dream in this environment and feels the most at home here.
No argument there, but lap times are "gamed" as hard as possible, and wet doesn't factor. I personallyike the CC2 or PSAS4 for a daily in a GT type situation. My experience with Goodyear vs Michelin is that GY loses grip around 50-60*f, while Michelin will maintain it down to 20f less or so. That said, my use is 24/7-365 mobility, as sportily as sensible, so Im using CC2s at present to deal with snow while still performing in rain and dry.
As to why I chose ev6 Gt over Taycan, since some people are obsessed with it, is because of the greater ground clearance, and overall better engineered powertrain (motors, battery, cooling, etc) with far less stop sales and so forth. I am sure the Taycan suspension is lovely, but I had a c6 z06, and it had the same (well, 0.1" less...)ground clearance. No way I want a wagon with sub 5" clearance. Taycan is a lot lower. More of a sports car, less of a GT car. This is also part of why Kia did not do official ev6 gt lap times. The product is not aimed at that, but at GT, and they aren't trying to blur the established lines if N and GT products.
The EV6 GT has better thermal management. The EV6 GT has 6.2" ground clearance and Taycan CT has 5.7" ground clearance. The only Porsche Taycan that can lap the ring has PCCB's, otherwise it runs out of brakes. The EV6 GT on the other hand has better regen and can get by with standard fittings. Here is what LArgus has to say about it:
https://www.largus.fr/actualite-aut...bonne-electrique-au-nurburgring-30024202.html
Like I said, this is actual feedback from a group that ran both cars on the Northern Loop, and their findings. If you have something more substantial, I'd love to see it. The Porsche is more the sports car, but the "bones" of the GT (cooling, braking, etc) are absolutely phenomenal. It's an excellent GT car.
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Different groups of purchasers.
This. Especially considering the Plaid costs less than half, but that said, I know more 7 figure earners in Plaid's than I do P cars.
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