Porsche design philosophy on service

Those 997.1 were probably getting their IMS bearings done. At the end of the day, people don't buy a Porsche or 911 because they're interested in saving money. Although when you consider depreciation, they're pretty good in that respect.
 
I was at the launch of the 991, the event at our local dealership. We got a tour of the service area and it was so clean one could eat off of the floor. Also interesting was that there were several 997's with the engines removed. Kinda hinted to me why at the indie garage that I took my Maxima to, there were cars generationally as new as 997's being serviced there (9 years ago). I remember my kid was little and the owner didn't appreciate him in the shop.

Who knows, maybe Porsche in 2024, is similar to my experience on the 951, where even though it has a full warranty, they somehow exclude things. Why would anyone bring a car under warranty to an indie garage is what I'm thinking. On my car I f'd up a front caliper (genius 19 y.o. used a screwdriver to push the pistons back in) and back then, it was $800 for me to get the part and DIY the replacement. That has to be less today. Because that's $2,200 in 2024 dollars. wth let's check

The 997.1 was launched in 2007. When the 991.1 was launched in 2012-2013 it was 5+ years old well out of the 4yr warranty. Its also possible you saw the earlier generation 996 which was very similar from the rear. Many people with New Porches get them serviced at Indies as the dealer prices are ridiculous.

I bought my 991.1 2years old and CPO and my 2021 Cayman S brand new and I still service both myself. Its not that I cant afford to pay for the service its just I would feel foolish forking over 1k-4k each time I walk in the Service department when I can do it myself. If I couldnt I would seek out a good Indie
 
Those 997.1 were probably getting their IMS bearings done. At the end of the day, people don't buy a Porsche or 911 because they're interested in saving money. Although when you consider depreciation, they're pretty good in that respect.
When I would drop off my Maxima there would usually be 2 951’s in the garage. I said, I’d like to drive that daily (never mentioned I owned one in another lifetime). The owner John said, “No you wouldn’t.” I always loved the front clip and rear valence, and at the time it lead to dates. Standard phone dial rims and no sport seats nor sport shocks (dummy lol). Like the movie said, there is no substitute.
 
They are 30 years late to the party with the boxer. Subaru figured it out in 1966 but I'll give them credit. Its the practical way to go but that ends with EVs
 
I bought a really nice 944 with a bad clutch in the mid 90's for just over 2K. It was a beautiful dark maroon with tan leather interior. I pulled the clutch and ordered the parts and jacked it up in the air on 4 jack stands. I had to pull the rear transmission and shift assembly and torque tube and sensor on the flywheel and finally I got to the bell housing. beautiful engineering on everything. Pulled the starter too. I was trying every angle to get the bell housing out and had just given up working for the day when I crawled W out. I had just gotten out and picked up my coffee cup when I heard a loud noise. The bell housing had fallen out on the garage floor by itself. Wife wondered why I was mad cause I explained to her that now I didn't see how it needed to go back. I bought this car cheap because the Porsche garage in Nashville quoted him an awful price to fix it. His response was to just dump it. I got it all repaired and had to replace front struts and motor mounts and tires. It drove wonderfully and even got the AC working again. Drove it for a couple years and sold it to another guy for more than double what I paid but he got a good reliable car. The original clutch had a hard rubber center and that had fallen apart due to age and maybe some abuse.
The 944s were really nice I had a friend with 944 turbo back in the day and I really was impressed. with how nice the car was .
 
The 944s were really nice I had a friend with 944 turbo back in the day and I really was impressed. with how nice the car was .
I bought one new and was cited 155/55 on the NYS Thruway. Idiot friend egged me on and Bell Helicopters and Motorola were just as effective back then, as they are today. My outcome was not as funny as Sammy Hagar’s, it was pretty serious. Welcome to the iron bars inn, we’ve kept the light on for you. Pretty terrifying.

 
This thread has rekindled my love for Porsche. I configured a Macan S and it came out over $100k. I can’t say it seems worth it given the family situation. I’d likely have to be more realistic and dream about 5 yo 911’s after the kid’s 18. That’s even a stretch. Not even sure about the bucket list. M3 is very realistic on the other hand.
 
On my car I f'd up a front caliper, and back then, it was $800 for me to get the part and DIY the replacement.
That has to be less today.
Because that's $2,200 in 2024 dollars.

wth let's check

It is considerably cheaper in 2024. A front brake caliper is $1226 list, and sold all over the web for $929.

Yeah, I would go to car-part . com and buy a used caliper for my 2015 Cayman before buying a new one from the dealer.
All under $300, from my quick check.
And then I'd replace just the damaged piston using the best one from the used caliper I just bought, and place the rest of the caliper on the shelf for future use.
 
This engine was born in Germany, but contrary to popular belief, it was not Porsche’s creation. In fact, it was invented by Karl Benz in 1887, more than fifty years before the first 356 took to the streets.

Subaru, which introduced the first EA boxer engine in 1966 and remains committed to using it to this day on most of its vehicles.
 
This engine was born in Germany, but contrary to popular belief, it was not Porsche’s creation. In fact, it was invented by Karl Benz in 1887, more than fifty years before the first 356 took to the streets.

Subaru, which introduced the first EA boxer engine in 1966 and remains committed to using it to this day on most of its vehicles.
Yes, my link says it was used in the Porsche 356 which started production in 1948, so predates Subaru by quite some time.
 
Yeah, I would go to car-part . com and buy a used caliper for my 2015 Cayman before buying a new one from the dealer.
All under $300, from my quick check.
And then I'd replace just the damaged piston using the best one from the used caliper I just bought, and place the rest of the caliper on the shelf for future use.
I was really inexperienced at the time. Someone demonstrated to me how your caliper is almost nothing weight-wise so you don’t just use a screwdriver to pry the pistons in. Oddly I almost prefer floating now, it’s easier imho. Maybe it’s not but I’m used to them. I remember the incident when I work on the Lexus which has 4 piston on the fronts and 2 in the rear.

When I cracked a turn signal lense, it was cheaper to buy the entire assembly over the lens itself. The car was barely a year old so it wasn’t easy to get used. Maybe someone out there remembers—PAR in Yonkers, NY. That’s where I looked for parts, new, if not used.

I was a young nut I guess I spent $2,000 to get an aftermarket stereo how much is that in 2024 dollars…$5,700 😂

When it all came to an end I got a 1978 Volvo 264 GLE what a difference
 
I was really inexperienced at the time. Someone demonstrated to me how your caliper is almost nothing weight-wise so you don’t just use a screwdriver to pry the pistons in. Oddly I almost prefer floating now, it’s easier imho. Maybe it’s not but I’m used to them. I remember the incident when I work on the Lexus which has 4 piston on the fronts and 2 in the rear.

When I cracked a turn signal lense, it was cheaper to buy the entire assembly over the lens itself. The car was barely a year old so it wasn’t easy to get used. Maybe someone out there remembers—PAR in Yonkers, NY. That’s where I looked for parts, new, if not used.

I was a young nut I guess I spent $2,000 to get an aftermarket stereo how much is that in 2024 dollars…$5,700 😂

When it all came to an end I got a 1978 Volvo 264 GLE what a difference
The only thing I remember about Yonkers was the Nathan's hotdog restaurant with its arcade which, to a 10 yr old, felt like it was the size of a football field.
 
Those 997.1 were probably getting their IMS bearings done. At the end of the day, people don't buy a Porsche or 911 because they're interested in saving money. Although when you consider depreciation, they're pretty good in that respect.
I haven't been in a Porsche for probably 15 years and a Ferrari the same so I am outdated but the Porsche is a much better all around car,, pleasant to drive ,,, I like them.
 
They are 30 years late to the party with the boxer. Subaru figured it out in 1966 but I'll give them credit. Its the practical way to go but that ends with EVs
Many boxer and flat engines were around many decades in car, bikes and aircraft before Subaru made one. Porsche used VW 4 cyl engines but Chevrolet introduced the 6 cyl long before Porsche did and even had a turbo version in 1959, GM actually installed one in a Porsche car as a test mule, guess where Porsche got the idea for the first turbo 911 (the 930), the Corvair.
Citroen used one in the 2CV as early as 1948 and made a very nice air boxer 4 cyl FWD GS in 1970. BMW used a 2cyl in motorcycles pre war. Historically Subaru was a late adopter of the boxer.
 
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