Outlook for Chrysler

[HyundaiGuy]

Even if Chrysler survives (which I believe they will) I think they will be an "also ran" like the consolation prize on a game show. I could see myself going to a Chrysler dealership and buying a "real" Fiat (the recent 500 looks slick) but never a Chrysler branded product.

Their trucks are far better in my opinion than their cars, but If I were going to buy a new full size truck right now, it would be either a Ford F150 or a Toyota Tundra, The F150 has always been a great truck, and Ford never took any bailout money. The Ram (although it is a good truck, I work with a lady that has one) wouldn't even be considered.

As I've said before, Chrysler's vehicles aren't the real problem (although I think one can easily do better elsewhere.) As long as the consumer perception of Chrysler is low, consumers will not visit the dealerships. If they don't go to the dealership, they can't buy- no matter how good the vehicles may (or may not) be.

It will take many years to turn Chrysler around, if it can be done at all.

 

[Nick R]

{Edited out off topic content}

But on Chrysler..... I LOVE the challenger. Give me a challenger with the new 3.6L Pentastar and a 5/6 speed auto and it would be near the top of my list.

 

[StevieC]

Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Thread is about Chrysler. Let's keep it on that.
Bill I didn't bypass the censor I put in "$#!@" like I have seen you do in a post earlier this week.

I'm not arguing with you just pointing it out.

 

[Bill in Utah]

Originally Posted By: StevieC
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Thread is about Chrysler. Let's keep it on that.
Bill I didn't bypass the censor I put in "$#!@" like I have seen you do in a post earlier this week.

I'm not arguing with you just pointing it out.

And where did I do that? Typing a 4 letter word that starts with the "S" and then using 3 more letters.

#!@^&! is a lot different than what you typed above.

I NEVER use the same letters as the word starts with and then the same number of letters as the word like I'm trying to bypass the censor.

Also ANOTHER tip... PM someone if you have an "issue". ESP a mod. Doing it public could cause "issues" esp if we get the "dogpile effect".

Since you decided to publicly say something I HAVE to respond the same.

Comments ANY further? It would be smart to PM me.

Bill

 

[mopar_monkey]

Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Originally Posted By: StevieC
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Thread is about Chrysler. Let's keep it on that.
Bill I didn't bypass the censor I put in "$#!@" like I have seen you do in a post earlier this week.

I'm not arguing with you just pointing it out.

And where did I do that? Typing a 4 letter word that starts with the "S" and then using 3 more letters.

#!@^&! is a lot different than what you typed above.

I NEVER use the same letters as the word starts with and then the same number of letters as the word like I'm trying to bypass the censor.

Also ANOTHER tip... PM someone if you have an "issue". ESP a mod. Doing it public could cause "issues" esp if we get the "dogpile effect".

Since you decided to publicly say something I HAVE to respond the same.

Comments ANY further? It would be smart to PM me.

Bill


actually to be fair i do believe that is a dollar sign ($)

 

[StevieC]

It is but I don't want to start anything in this thread so I will leave it here and PM Bill anything further...

Please leave it at that everyone I will take this offline with Bill as I should have done in the begining but didn't think about it enough.

Thanks in advance for respecting my request.

Steve

 

[Bill in Utah]

Originally Posted By: mopar_monkey

actually to be fair i do believe that is a dollar sign ($)


And this IS the reason (and Stevie and I have discussed this in a PM) but since YOU replied publicly....

MANY people type $h__ (I think you can figure out the rest) just like others type S#__ to bypass the censor.

If I'm going to be EQUAL across the board I have to do the SAME to all of them. If not then I get the "you edited out mine but not his" messages (yes, just this week)

Can we PLEASE go back to the Outlook for Chrysler?

Or do I need to lock this one up?

Bill

 

[Herz]

Originally Posted By: tomcat27
Fiat is actually quite a force to be reckoned with. Their engines are smooth, high output. and the 500 is a VERY cool car, well-appointed, great fit and finish - for its price point. Of course, Chrysler disappoints by building it in Mexico instead of IL. We NEED jobs here in America to boost and hold our economy so that we CAN buy cars.


Especially after they got our money to stay in buisness.

 

[Autobahn88]

Originally Posted By: defektes
Originally Posted By: tomcat27
Fiat is actually quite a force to be reckoned with. Their engines are smooth, high output. and the 500 is a VERY cool car, well-appointed, great fit and finish - for its price point. Of course, Chrysler disappoints by building it in Mexico instead of IL. We NEED jobs here in America to boost and hold our economy so that we CAN buy cars.


Especially after they got our money to stay in buisness.


Did the American govt bail out Fiat? I had no idea..

 

[oilmaven]

I have to admit the new Chrysler ads are looking pretty slick...so did the ads for AMC in 1983 after they hooked up with Renault (and we know how well THAT went). I'm hopeful that Chrysler has more going for it than AMC did at that time but they've been hit pretty hard. I've personally owned no fewer than 4 Chrysler minivans (a 1988 with a 4 cyl., a 1989 with a 3.0 liter, a 1991 with a 3.3 and a 1997 Town & Country with the 3.8 liter...my favorite). I recently sold my 2003 PT Cruiser that I bought new and drove for 101,000 very dependable miles (not so sure that was a smart thing as that vehicle still ran and drove great). I have a soft spot for Chrysler and WANT them to make it...I'm just not sure a hook-up with Fiat is the way to go (Fiat is still fighting low reliability and customer satisfaction rankings in Europe...despite their claims to the contrary). The last Fiat I considered was a 1976 Fiat 128 that my dad (thankfully) talked me out of buying (got a 1977 VW Rabbit instead...my first new car). Reviews for the new Grand Cherokee are mixed but mostly positive and the highly-touted and all-new Pentastar V6 shows promise. The company will have to have far more competitive models in all segments to compete and make money...particularly in today's automotive environment. The models will be slow in coming and these cars (like GM and Ford) will HAVE TO BE GOOD OUT OF THE BOX. Any quality glitches and the game is over. For the sake of the company, it's workers, suppliers and everyone with a stake in the company's success I'll be rooting for them. If they can pull this off I may look at what they have to offer in a couple of years.

 

[Herz]

Originally Posted By: Autobahn88
Originally Posted By: defektes
Originally Posted By: tomcat27
Fiat is actually quite a force to be reckoned with. Their engines are smooth, high output. and the 500 is a VERY cool car, well-appointed, great fit and finish - for its price point. Of course, Chrysler disappoints by building it in Mexico instead of IL. We NEED jobs here in America to boost and hold our economy so that we CAN buy cars.


Especially after they got our money to stay in buisness.


Did the American govt bail out Fiat? I had no idea..


They bailed out chrysler knowing fiat was going to buy them.

 

[NHHEMI]

My local Chrysler dealer( Chrysler, Dodge/Ram Trucks, Jeep )is doing fantastic. Just talking with the owner's boy the other day and business is way up for them.

 

[StevieC]

Same here in Canada as my dad who is a retiree gets updates...

 

[caravanmike]

chrysler post second operating profit in a row! things are looking good! mike

Link:
http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/2010/07/chrysler-posts-profits

 

[StevieC]

I still they they need to bring back the Reliants & Omni's but in a modern version. They would make a killing.

Cheap reliable cars when not raining!

 

[Autobahn88]

Originally Posted By: defektes
Originally Posted By: Autobahn88
Originally Posted By: defektes
Originally Posted By: tomcat27
Fiat is actually quite a force to be reckoned with. Their engines are smooth, high output. and the 500 is a VERY cool car, well-appointed, great fit and finish - for its price point. Of course, Chrysler disappoints by building it in Mexico instead of IL. We NEED jobs here in America to boost and hold our economy so that we CAN buy cars.


Especially after they got our money to stay in buisness.


Did the American govt bail out Fiat? I had no idea..


They bailed out chrysler knowing fiat was going to buy them.


So chrysler got the bail out money not Fiat. Fiat was not saved by bailout money by the U.S.

 

[SteveSRT8]

just google multi air, Fiat can bring some good tech to the table.

 

[IndyIan]

I think there is a niche for a subcompact sporty feeling car. The Yaris, accent, fit, fiesta, size cars all weigh 2500lbs+ but have 105-115 hp... They make even my old Neon seem fast if they have an automatic. Fiat must have something that isn't as tall as it is wide in this class and has 140hp+

 

[VNTS]

Originally Posted By: IndyIan
I think there is a niche for a subcompact sporty feeling car. The Yaris, accent, fit, fiesta, size cars all weigh 2500lbs+ but have 105-115 hp... They make even my old Neon seem fast if they have an automatic. Fiat must have something that isn't as tall as it is wide in this class and has 140hp+


I think they have the Abarth with the 1.4 Turbo at about 150HP with good mpg. THe multi air will also add to the small engines.