I would give a serious look at a 2nd gen Tundra with 5.7 V8. It would be worthwhile to look and test drive one if you are open.
They made them from 2007-2021. Sheetmetal and interior redesign for 2014, but essentially same truck.
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They made them from 2007-2021. Sheetmetal and interior redesign for 2014, but essentially same truck.
Can’t echo this enough. Modern-ish Ford is not superb.
I'd agree with this, the 5.4 2v is generally a very good motor. Just make sure maintenance was good and tighten those spark plugs! Agreed on the 3.5 Eco but the 2.7 seems good.
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I am almost positive that all 2000-2003 5.4s received the 4r100
In the expedition, 98/98 F150s and the 7 lug trucks they did. But 99-03 should have the 4R70W.
Which I think is a more reliable transmission as long as you don't tow in overdrive. I don't think you can beat on of the 2v engines backed by a 4R70/75
That platform was actually on the list originally to purchase for my son instead of giving him my current Canyon. Neighbor just sold his 2wd regular cab 08 with 5.3 and just over 100k mi for $12k. I seriously looked at it but still needed a 4wd.
I’ve just been burned too many times with GM products that I tend not to even give them a second glance. The Canyon belonged to my grandfather when he passed. I bought it from the estate as another sentimental item to have of his. Giving it to my son keeps it in the family. I never would have considered this pickup had that not been the case.
That's the way I feel about Ford, plus I worked there and then at GM around 2003-2006.
I remember looking this up when I was still in ford parts department and the 7700gvw trucks with the extra lug(s) wheels got the upgraded transmission and you could be write about the expedition, we saw a lot more f150s than expeditions.
I had a 1999 F-150 with the 4.6 modular. Mine was the two valve sohc. I sold it with around 100,000 miles w/o any major issues.
I did replace the plugs early on after reading about the plug issues. Over torquing these plugs is a no no. One of the reasons related to failure. That and not replacing at an early interval.
I did replace the plugs early on after reading about the plug issues. Over torquing these plugs is a no no. One of the reasons related to failure. That and not replacing at an early interval.
Where did you hear that over torquing would cause failure? Not trying to start a war just curious
I could see going overboard but most that do it go from 14 to 25 lb-ft or so on the 5.4. Many thousands have done so on the 5.4 and V10 with great success.I know there’s plenty of people that have been burned by Ford as well. I’ve just happened to have great luck with them. Easily put over 200k mi on each one with minimal issues and only two exceptions. One was a 94 t bird 4.6. Used it to travel the west coast doing power plant outages and construction from 01-03 and had it a year or two prior. Ford dealer in Salinas overfilled the transmission by nearly 10qts. I jumped on 101 & smoke started billowing, thought it caught fire lol. Those guys tried to blame me for the overfilled transmission when it was only there for a trans & diff service. After they corrected the level, transmission never shifted as well & went out a few months later at about 180k.
Other was my wife’s old mkx. Most of the issues were her doing & im shocked it went to 188k before the water pump crapped out (3.5 so pita to fix).
The GM products have never catastrophically failed me. More of constant issues. Even this canyon is constant small to medium issues & it only has 71.5k on it.
As far as electronics - APIM's in 2018 for sure. I had one replaced in the lemon, and the replacement for the replacement was on backorder (again, at time of wreck)
11-14's - I do not recall any particular electronics issues.
Thanks. New tech moves too fast for my taste. Computers, phones, home av setups all become useless after a few years because support goes away. I just got a new phone because my last one lost functionality & Apple seems like they actively try to kill the battery with every update once new models come out. Can’t see something similar not happening with cars/trucks. That & introducing so many electronics in vehicles just seems problematic in the future.
I've given up on brand loyalty after many years. The only good ford I had was a 78 f100 I had like 15 years ago. My parents had multiple and still have a 2019 ford edge but they bought it before their 2010 Taurus they gave to my sister had an internal water pump failure that mechanically totalled it....they don't think they'll buy another ford now.
My 2005 Silverado and 1984 Olds (among many other GM's) have all been solid but I know that gm quality dropped a ton after about 2007.
Yup. I dread the day stuff starts crudding out on the wife's Black Label Navigator. I can just see myself cruising at 80 down the interstate and the darn thing going babananers thinking that I'm about to plow into a non-existent vehicle in front of me and it's safety features taking over to 'avoid the imminent wreck'
The HUD projector junk already screams at me way too much.
My best gm was a 78 1 ton crew cab. 454/th400/4.1 rear gear. 323k it got a new gm ho 454 crate. The old 454 ran better than the new crate so it was sold at 328k. That was a great truck. Got 7-8mpg & didn’t matter if it was pulling a trailer of concrete or dry lol
I hear ya. Rented a jeep suv a few years ago for a work trip as company vehicles were all reserved. First time getting on I5 it started jerking the steering wheel by itself. Stopped at home to figure out how to shut all that driver assist crap off. It started doing similar while off road in the Tehachapi mountains. Why in the heck would some type of steering assist be wanted when off road?!
