Back in the '70's we'd sometimes go to the pub for lunch...the foreman and service manager were often there too. 2 days into my new job, and it's beers after work every night, once a week maybe, but I'm not going to do it every night.
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When I worked for the “City”, some of us would frequent this pizza place for lunch that had 2 beers for $5 at lunch time. 2 of th guys would down 4 beers and a pizza in 45 min. 2-3 times a week. No one cared
Rules for drinking on the job (including social hours)
*Don't
*If you must - ALWAYS at least 2 fewer drinks than your immediate boss and/or 1 fewer than his boss - whichever is less
*Don't
If you can't keep count of your boss and his boss then you shouldn't be drinking!
*Don't
*If you must - ALWAYS at least 2 fewer drinks than your immediate boss and/or 1 fewer than his boss - whichever is less
*Don't
If you can't keep count of your boss and his boss then you shouldn't be drinking!
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In college I did an internship at a company that had a high percentage of European PhDs. We would do group lunches, and a bottle of beer was like nothing to them. But it's more due to the culture of the people associated.
In US culture, it seems that there's the two martini business lunch, or nothing. Drinking outside of work events/parties is a no-no.
IMO.
In US culture, it seems that there's the two martini business lunch, or nothing. Drinking outside of work events/parties is a no-no.
IMO.
So, you're fine returning after lunch 1/2 lit ? The 2 Martini lunch died away 50 yrs ago. Americans drink less than they used to .
Originally Posted By: Eddie
If you have a career and don't want to lose it then don't drink alcohol on the job or come to work under the influence. Ed in AA
Keep up the good work Ed!
If you have a career and don't want to lose it then don't drink alcohol on the job or come to work under the influence. Ed in AA
Keep up the good work Ed!
I work in a power plant and youre supposed to get fired if you drink on the job. But i heard lots of stories about the old days when guys would drink on the job. I’m kind of jealous that i’m not old enough to have experienced a place like that. I cant imagine drinking and doing some of the jobs that we do, hopefully youre done with your serious work by the time the liquor comes out.
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Originally Posted By: andyd
So, you're fine returning after lunch 1/2 lit ? The 2 Martini lunch died away 50 yrs ago. Americans drink less than they used to .
Where did I say that I was fine with it?
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
In college I did an internship at a company that had a high percentage of European PhDs. We would do group lunches, and a bottle of beer was like nothing to them. But it's more due to the culture of the people associated.
In US culture, it seems that there's the two martini business lunch, or nothing. Drinking outside of work events/parties is a no-no.
IMO.
I merely made observations.
I even stated that drinking outside of work events/parties is a no-no.
Read slower and more thoroughly next time.
So, you're fine returning after lunch 1/2 lit ? The 2 Martini lunch died away 50 yrs ago. Americans drink less than they used to .
Where did I say that I was fine with it?
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
In college I did an internship at a company that had a high percentage of European PhDs. We would do group lunches, and a bottle of beer was like nothing to them. But it's more due to the culture of the people associated.
In US culture, it seems that there's the two martini business lunch, or nothing. Drinking outside of work events/parties is a no-no.
IMO.
I merely made observations.
I even stated that drinking outside of work events/parties is a no-no.
Read slower and more thoroughly next time.
Originally Posted By: Kage860
I work in a power plant and youre supposed to get fired if you drink on the job. But i heard lots of stories about the old days when guys would drink on the job. I’m kind of jealous that i’m not old enough to have experienced a place like that. I cant imagine drinking and doing some of the jobs that we do, hopefully youre done with your serious work by the time the liquor comes out.
IMO you should be glad you missed out on that culture in such a hazardous work environment. I started in the petroleum industry in 1986, just after DOT pre-employment and random drug testing was put in effect. "Random" then meant someone egregiously indulged in sight of enough people it couldn't be ignored, as it cost money to test folks. I routinely found syringes around docks and our office manager & asst mgr were cokeheads in cahoots. In my dad's day it was worse primarily with alchol on the job where things can go BOOM with everyone stone cold sober. He & I were /are migraine sufferers with alcohol a guaranteed trigger so neither of us wrre ever drinkers, even social drinkers. What I'm somewhat sorry I missed was being able to ride the crane headache ball instead of use a man basket, and metal hard hats with brims, but that's another matter entirely.
I work in a power plant and youre supposed to get fired if you drink on the job. But i heard lots of stories about the old days when guys would drink on the job. I’m kind of jealous that i’m not old enough to have experienced a place like that. I cant imagine drinking and doing some of the jobs that we do, hopefully youre done with your serious work by the time the liquor comes out.
IMO you should be glad you missed out on that culture in such a hazardous work environment. I started in the petroleum industry in 1986, just after DOT pre-employment and random drug testing was put in effect. "Random" then meant someone egregiously indulged in sight of enough people it couldn't be ignored, as it cost money to test folks. I routinely found syringes around docks and our office manager & asst mgr were cokeheads in cahoots. In my dad's day it was worse primarily with alchol on the job where things can go BOOM with everyone stone cold sober. He & I were /are migraine sufferers with alcohol a guaranteed trigger so neither of us wrre ever drinkers, even social drinkers. What I'm somewhat sorry I missed was being able to ride the crane headache ball instead of use a man basket, and metal hard hats with brims, but that's another matter entirely.
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Originally Posted By: Kage860
I work in a power plant and youre supposed to get fired if you drink on the job. But i heard lots of stories about the old days when guys would drink on the job. I’m kind of jealous that i’m not old enough to have experienced a place like that. I cant imagine drinking and doing some of the jobs that we do, hopefully youre done with your serious work by the time the liquor comes out.
IMO you should be glad you missed out on that culture in such a hazardous work environment. I started in the petroleum industry in 1986, just after DOT pre-employment and random drug testing was put in effect. "Random" then meant someone egregiously indulged in sight of enough people it couldn't be ignored, as it cost money to test folks. I routinely found syringes around docks and our office manager & asst mgr were cokeheads in cahoots. In my dad's day it was worse primarily with alchol on the job where things can go BOOM with everyone stone cold sober. He & I were /are migraine sufferers with alcohol a guaranteed trigger so neither of us wrre ever drinkers, even social drinkers. What I'm somewhat sorry I missed was being able to ride the crane headache ball instead of use a man basket, and metal hard hats with brims, but that's another matter entirely.
Yes, be glad you missed that in the Power Industry.
When an undergrad, in field locations, it was customary to have a counter lunch and two "schooners" (425ml of beer)...on the new power station site it was verbotten, culturally even before regulatory.
The established power stations still had a drink offsite on meal break culture that was stamped out thankfully.
1992, you could "smell the smell" around site and find juice bottle and hose makeshift bongs, which was concerning for a young bloke, where there's so may ways to get killed without impairment adding to it.
Now is getting really scary ICE is in, riggers, pressure welders, and boilermakers have been caught using it (and selling it) on the sites. There's a blacklist being developed as they become known. There's synthetic opiods that evade the tests being made and sold so that people can CONTINUE to work impaired.
Originally Posted By: Kage860
I work in a power plant and youre supposed to get fired if you drink on the job. But i heard lots of stories about the old days when guys would drink on the job. I’m kind of jealous that i’m not old enough to have experienced a place like that. I cant imagine drinking and doing some of the jobs that we do, hopefully youre done with your serious work by the time the liquor comes out.
IMO you should be glad you missed out on that culture in such a hazardous work environment. I started in the petroleum industry in 1986, just after DOT pre-employment and random drug testing was put in effect. "Random" then meant someone egregiously indulged in sight of enough people it couldn't be ignored, as it cost money to test folks. I routinely found syringes around docks and our office manager & asst mgr were cokeheads in cahoots. In my dad's day it was worse primarily with alchol on the job where things can go BOOM with everyone stone cold sober. He & I were /are migraine sufferers with alcohol a guaranteed trigger so neither of us wrre ever drinkers, even social drinkers. What I'm somewhat sorry I missed was being able to ride the crane headache ball instead of use a man basket, and metal hard hats with brims, but that's another matter entirely.
Yes, be glad you missed that in the Power Industry.
When an undergrad, in field locations, it was customary to have a counter lunch and two "schooners" (425ml of beer)...on the new power station site it was verbotten, culturally even before regulatory.
The established power stations still had a drink offsite on meal break culture that was stamped out thankfully.
1992, you could "smell the smell" around site and find juice bottle and hose makeshift bongs, which was concerning for a young bloke, where there's so may ways to get killed without impairment adding to it.
Now is getting really scary ICE is in, riggers, pressure welders, and boilermakers have been caught using it (and selling it) on the sites. There's a blacklist being developed as they become known. There's synthetic opiods that evade the tests being made and sold so that people can CONTINUE to work impaired.
Pharmacy drives you to drink. Especially retail. However, never on the clock. I'm not sure I would be all that nice to patients that are generally rude. It would certainly make time go faster as well. Lol. However, I completely agree with Bubba!
Wow! I can't relate to those that say that drinking at work is allowed or tolerated. Almost 40 years in my professional career now, and drinking on the job has been a firing offense everywhere I have worked.
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
What job actually allows on the job drinking? Anyone who thinks they need to drink on the job is a delusional alcoholic.
Well at the previous job, a bunch of older secretaries all drank. I'm not sure if they were allowed, but their bosses must have know. I guess they functioned fine enough to type and answer the phone because I think some of them had been there for 10-20 years.
This was in the city and most people commuted by taking public transportation as there wasn't any real parking in the area so I guess it was fine if they were still a little lit on the way home. Remember the stats, it's about 10% of the people who do 90% of the drinking.
What job actually allows on the job drinking? Anyone who thinks they need to drink on the job is a delusional alcoholic.
Well at the previous job, a bunch of older secretaries all drank. I'm not sure if they were allowed, but their bosses must have know. I guess they functioned fine enough to type and answer the phone because I think some of them had been there for 10-20 years.
This was in the city and most people commuted by taking public transportation as there wasn't any real parking in the area so I guess it was fine if they were still a little lit on the way home. Remember the stats, it's about 10% of the people who do 90% of the drinking.
My brother was in Germany in 80s at MAN diesel Engine plant for training and he said that in their cafeteria vending machine they had beer.
Originally Posted By: DallasTexas
My brother was in Germany in 80s at MAN diesel Engine plant for training and he said that in their cafeteria vending machine they had beer.
I remember doing the BMW factory tour in Munich. They had beer vending machines in the break room. So maybe that's why German quality isn't as high as American/Japanese.
My brother was in Germany in 80s at MAN diesel Engine plant for training and he said that in their cafeteria vending machine they had beer.
I remember doing the BMW factory tour in Munich. They had beer vending machines in the break room. So maybe that's why German quality isn't as high as American/Japanese.
Originally Posted By: BHopkins
Wow! I can't relate to those that say that drinking at work is allowed or tolerated. Almost 40 years in my professional career now, and drinking on the job has been a firing offense everywhere I have worked.
At every single place I've worked I've seen alcohol served for one occasion or another. We'd celebrate some sort of milestone with Champagne, and we'd have wine and cheese on Fridays. When we had people from Texas visiting, we managed to find some Shiner Bock. It wasn't necessarily something done every day, but it certainly wasn't a firing offense. We've gone out to a cafe on a break, and even the boss ordered a beer.
Wow! I can't relate to those that say that drinking at work is allowed or tolerated. Almost 40 years in my professional career now, and drinking on the job has been a firing offense everywhere I have worked.
At every single place I've worked I've seen alcohol served for one occasion or another. We'd celebrate some sort of milestone with Champagne, and we'd have wine and cheese on Fridays. When we had people from Texas visiting, we managed to find some Shiner Bock. It wasn't necessarily something done every day, but it certainly wasn't a firing offense. We've gone out to a cafe on a break, and even the boss ordered a beer.
I am retired from a large Defense contractor we had random urinalysis all the time, but I had Top Secret clearance + compartment clearances.
Originally Posted By: y_p_w
Originally Posted By: BHopkins
Wow! I can't relate to those that say that drinking at work is allowed or tolerated. Almost 40 years in my professional career now, and drinking on the job has been a firing offense everywhere I have worked.
At every single place I've worked I've seen alcohol served for one occasion or another. We'd celebrate some sort of milestone with Champagne, and we'd have wine and cheese on Fridays. When we had people from Texas visiting, we managed to find some Shiner Bock. It wasn't necessarily something done every day, but it certainly wasn't a firing offense. We've gone out to a cafe on a break, and even the boss ordered a beer.
I was only sorry I wasn't a drinker once. We were at a holiday party at a restaurant that the owner owned and it was one of those where certain patrons have their own section for wine. One of the managers asked the boss if he could try a bottle of wine from his private stashes of wine and the owner said to go ahead. He was kinda shocked the owner agreed and offered the whole group of us a glass. I declined as I'd have no idea what I would be drinking, others commented later that it was probably a 1k bottle of wine. Small family owned businesses are much more lax about drinking.
Originally Posted By: BHopkins
Wow! I can't relate to those that say that drinking at work is allowed or tolerated. Almost 40 years in my professional career now, and drinking on the job has been a firing offense everywhere I have worked.
At every single place I've worked I've seen alcohol served for one occasion or another. We'd celebrate some sort of milestone with Champagne, and we'd have wine and cheese on Fridays. When we had people from Texas visiting, we managed to find some Shiner Bock. It wasn't necessarily something done every day, but it certainly wasn't a firing offense. We've gone out to a cafe on a break, and even the boss ordered a beer.
I was only sorry I wasn't a drinker once. We were at a holiday party at a restaurant that the owner owned and it was one of those where certain patrons have their own section for wine. One of the managers asked the boss if he could try a bottle of wine from his private stashes of wine and the owner said to go ahead. He was kinda shocked the owner agreed and offered the whole group of us a glass. I declined as I'd have no idea what I would be drinking, others commented later that it was probably a 1k bottle of wine. Small family owned businesses are much more lax about drinking.
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
Originally Posted By: y_p_w
Originally Posted By: BHopkins
Wow! I can't relate to those that say that drinking at work is allowed or tolerated. Almost 40 years in my professional career now, and drinking on the job has been a firing offense everywhere I have worked.
At every single place I've worked I've seen alcohol served for one occasion or another. We'd celebrate some sort of milestone with Champagne, and we'd have wine and cheese on Fridays. When we had people from Texas visiting, we managed to find some Shiner Bock. It wasn't necessarily something done every day, but it certainly wasn't a firing offense. We've gone out to a cafe on a break, and even the boss ordered a beer.
I was only sorry I wasn't a drinker once. We were at a holiday party at a restaurant that the owner owned and it was one of those where certain patrons have their own section for wine. One of the managers asked the boss if he could try a bottle of wine from his private stashes of wine and the owner said to go ahead. He was kinda shocked the owner agreed and offered the whole group of us a glass. I declined as I'd have no idea what I would be drinking, others commented later that it was probably a 1k bottle of wine. Small family owned businesses are much more lax about drinking.
The places I worked at are electronics companies. I guess the Silicon Valley culture can be different whether it's a startup company or even at a Fortune 500 company. It was sort of implied that one wouldn't get totally wasted. We had after work alcohol where we'd go out and the company would pick up the tab.
It was probably the industry. We had groups in different parts of the country, and we found out that the group in Texas had "beer Fridays". And of course Europeans said that company cafeterias would have beer and wine.
Originally Posted By: y_p_w
Originally Posted By: BHopkins
Wow! I can't relate to those that say that drinking at work is allowed or tolerated. Almost 40 years in my professional career now, and drinking on the job has been a firing offense everywhere I have worked.
At every single place I've worked I've seen alcohol served for one occasion or another. We'd celebrate some sort of milestone with Champagne, and we'd have wine and cheese on Fridays. When we had people from Texas visiting, we managed to find some Shiner Bock. It wasn't necessarily something done every day, but it certainly wasn't a firing offense. We've gone out to a cafe on a break, and even the boss ordered a beer.
I was only sorry I wasn't a drinker once. We were at a holiday party at a restaurant that the owner owned and it was one of those where certain patrons have their own section for wine. One of the managers asked the boss if he could try a bottle of wine from his private stashes of wine and the owner said to go ahead. He was kinda shocked the owner agreed and offered the whole group of us a glass. I declined as I'd have no idea what I would be drinking, others commented later that it was probably a 1k bottle of wine. Small family owned businesses are much more lax about drinking.
The places I worked at are electronics companies. I guess the Silicon Valley culture can be different whether it's a startup company or even at a Fortune 500 company. It was sort of implied that one wouldn't get totally wasted. We had after work alcohol where we'd go out and the company would pick up the tab.
It was probably the industry. We had groups in different parts of the country, and we found out that the group in Texas had "beer Fridays". And of course Europeans said that company cafeterias would have beer and wine.
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