Oil price at local socal toyota

[UG_Passat]

Read the back of the bottle on top of that I know people who transport it.

Just because Exxon-Mobil supplies it, it doesn't mean it's the same thing as Mobil 1.

While the base stock on TGMO is really unknown, it's been speculated that it's a Group III, possibly a GTL basestock blend. Then the additive package is a lot different. TGMO, based on the VOA's posted on this site, is very heavy on the Moly and Boron. The Mobil 1 EP and especially AFE don't get to that level.

 

[wareze]

Where is the European approval?

it says ACEA C5 on the black bottle. The EP has the MB approval but its hard to find right now.

The European Automobile Manufacturers' Association (or Association des Constructeurs Européens d'Automobiles in French, hence the ACEA abbreviation) is an organization that represents the 15 most important European motor vehicle manufacturers.

 

[doublebase]

There's some question about that, or even if Mobil makes TGMO. You seem strongly vested in your position that TGMO is Mobil1. Can you provide some substantiation for that? I've not had any luck finding the information.

I personally don’t know if Mobil1 still makes TGMO, but I was in a Toyota class 8 years ago and the instructor mentioned that Mobil1 reps spoke to the instructors about their oil, and not to be concerned with the switch to 10,000 mile intervals. It was a fascinating story really because the instructor - who previously was a 3,000 mile interval guy - went on to say how the Mobil1 reps kind of changed his opinion on oil intervals. He said one of the reps actually told him, and I’m paraphrasing here....that their oil, if filled to the proper level could potentially do 70,000 miles. Haha. That the oil wouldn’t break down with top offs, and proper filtration, etc. Which believe me, I would never believe or do. But the instructor did mention that the oil was formulated by Mobil1. And I don’t think the Mobil1 rep was being serious, he was just trying to make a point.

 

[doublebase]

Just because Exxon-Mobil supplies it, it doesn't mean it's the same thing as Mobil 1.

While the base stock on TGMO is really unknown, it's been speculated that it's a Group III, possibly a GTL basestock blend. Then the additive package is a lot different. TGMO, based on the VOA's posted on this site, is very heavy on the Moly and Boron. The Mobil 1 EP and especially AFE don't get to that level.

I think the TGMO has gone through several changes over the last 10 years. I remember 5 years ago or so, the moly level had dropped SUBSTANTIALLY. Went from something very high (like 400), down to somewhere around 70. Of course the internet insiders said that was because TGMO was now using a higher quality moly, and hence, why the much lower numbers.

I have no idea what it’s at now. I haven’t purchased, or cared about TGMO in a long time. I used to run it in my Lexus LS460, but it was pretty expensive at that time.

 

[doublebase]

Went to go pick up some oil filters today. Two oil filters cost me $12

TGMO 0W-20: $9.19 per qt

I'll just stick to Walmart lol

I actually think those prices are pretty darn good for OE filters and TGMO, especially at a dealer. Would I buy them? No, I don’t spend money on TGMO anymore - I just buy whatever synthetic is on sale now, and I tend to lean towards Mobil1 EP if I’m shopping on Amazon or at Walmart.

 

[tolian21]

Costco has sale, you can get 6qt for $20.

 

[JohnnyJohnson]

Costco has sale, you can get 6qt for $20.

I don't know if its still on or not but I got 2 Jugs of Kirkland brand synthetic the other day for $30.99.

 

[tolian21]

Looks like its still on.

I don't know if its still on or not but I got 2 Jugs of Kirkland brand synthetic the other day for $30.99.

they still have this sale. Time to stock up! I am in the camp of buying cheap oil and changing it more often. Kirkland meets dexos3, and is good oil. No point paying 2-3 times for TGMO

 

[OVERKILL]

Toyota motor oil is Mobil 1.

No, it's blended by Mobil, as are many other non-Mobil branded products. Mobil 1 is a specific group of Mobil products blended under a specific moniker, which TGMO does not fall into. This is the same as the Mobil Super, Exxon and Esso families of products, none of which are Mobil 1.

 

[OVERKILL]

I personally don’t know if Mobil1 still makes TGMO, but I was in a Toyota class 8 years ago and the instructor mentioned that Mobil1 reps spoke to the instructors about their oil, and not to be concerned with the switch to 10,000 mile intervals. It was a fascinating story really because the instructor - who previously was a 3,000 mile interval guy - went on to say how the Mobil1 reps kind of changed his opinion on oil intervals. He said one of the reps actually told him, and I’m paraphrasing here....that their oil, if filled to the proper level could potentially do 70,000 miles. Haha. That the oil wouldn’t break down with top offs, and proper filtration, etc. Which believe me, I would never believe or do. But the instructor did mention that the oil was formulated by Mobil1. And I don’t think the Mobil1 rep was being serious, he was just trying to make a point.

The last Mobil-sourced SDS we had was for the SN version of TGMO, which was totally Group III based and had a much higher VI (lower visc bases, lots of VII) than any Mobil-branded product being produced. At the time, the Mobil-branded 0W-20's all had PAO in their base oil blend.

That rep might have been confusing Mobil with Mobil 1. It wouldn't be unusual to be talking to a Mobil rep, since Mobil did the blending, but Mobil 1 is just a specific family of Mobil branded products within the Mobil portfolio, so it would seem odd, unless there was a Mobil 1-specific marketing arrangement happening.

 

[Jhemiway23]

I go to a dealer here in Maryland, TGMO is $6 a qt. So I buy 4 qts for my Corolla for the insane price of $24. And I get a filter which is $4.50 a pop. Cheaper than going to wallyworld ! U gotta order it on the Toyota parts website to get the better price.

 

[John105]

Wonder what a gallon of pink SLLC costs, or, a quart of WS? I think about 4 years ago, $25 and $7.

 

[John105]

Yes because it is absolutely necessary to buy only Toyota products for Toyota's , I know this because I own a Toyota.

I put $27 centric rotors on my flagship Toyota (and they look like OE other than having black, not gray, hats)

ps wow--they are now $53. $27 was pre-pandemic and I do have another set in the basement

https://a.co/d/emEklZw



edit p.s. just checked, the first set was $27, and the ones in my basement were $31.60 on 11/8/19

p.p.s. it's hard to get used to the prices--the Centric fronts are now $70 at rock. In 2019 the OE was barely $90. Times they are a changin'

 

[tolian21]

I go to a dealer here in Maryland, TGMO is $6 a qt. So I buy 4 qts for my Corolla for the insane price of $24. And I get a filter which is $4.50 a pop. Cheaper than going to wallyworld ! U gotta order it on the Toyota parts website to get the better price.

Its now $3.20 per quart for signature Kirland full synthetic.

 

[Furious]

I put $27 centric rotors on my flagship Toyota (and they look like OE other than having black, not gray, hats)

ps wow--they are now $53. $27 was pre-pandemic and I do have another set in the basement

https://a.co/d/emEklZw



edit p.s. just checked, the first set was $27, and the ones in my basement were $31.60 on 11/8/19

p.p.s. it's hard to get used to the prices--the Centric fronts are now $70 at rock. In 2019 the OE was barely $90. Times they are a changin'

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How dare you put aftermarket on a Toyota, lol.

I use Duralast personally. And yea the prices are getting up there. Rotors for my Chevy originally costed $50 now they are $90. Good thing I did the rear drums earlier on in the pandemic so it wasn't as bad.

 

[John105]

How dare you put aftermarket on a Toyota, lol.

I use Duralast personally.

Not kidding they look great, just like OE, even with the cross hatching on the rotor surfaces. And they don't rust--the OE does rust pretty decently in the vanes, unlike BMWs say that have a zinc coating. I just thought to be anywhere near $30 I'd like to try them. unfortunately went up 60% since...

 

[Bill7]

I personally don’t know if Mobil1 still makes TGMO, but I was in a Toyota class 8 years ago and the instructor mentioned that Mobil1 reps spoke to the instructors about their oil, and not to be concerned with the switch to 10,000 mile intervals. It was a fascinating story really because the instructor - who previously was a 3,000 mile interval guy - went on to say how the Mobil1 reps kind of changed his opinion on oil intervals. He said one of the reps actually told him, and I’m paraphrasing here....that their oil, if filled to the proper level could potentially do 70,000 miles. Haha. That the oil wouldn’t break down with top offs, and proper filtration, etc. Which believe me, I would never believe or do. But the instructor did mention that the oil was formulated by Mobil1. And I don’t think the Mobil1 rep was being serious, he was just trying to make a point.

Personally, I think Automakers, car owners, etc have overestimated the oil's max interval in automobiles.
That is why there is so much sludge / varnish in many engines.
People doing extended OCI's convince themself they have no sludge (and have good UOA's),
only to see HPL oil fill up their oil filters endlessly with crud.

 

[wareze]

I put $27 centric rotors on my flagship Toyota (and they look like OE other than having black, not gray, hats)

ps wow--they are now $53. $27 was pre-pandemic and I do have another set in the basement

https://a.co/d/emEklZw



edit p.s. just checked, the first set was $27, and the ones in my basement were $31.60 on 11/8/19

p.p.s. it's hard to get used to the prices--the Centric fronts are now $70 at rock. In 2019 the OE was barely $90. Times they are a changin'

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I've used Centric and personally, I prefer the OEM brakes.