Oil Filter 'Sandwich' Adaptor

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Awaiting my 2012 VW Turbo Beetle and want to install a 'sandwich' adaptor to connect 1/8" NPT sensor for oil
temp that would be coming from my after market dash mounted
gauge. None available in the needed 27mm X 1.5 size and also
came to realize the thread is opposite of the usual ones.
Did find a machinist in Australia who is quite experienced
in 'sandwich' adaptors and he agreed to build me one. To help
him I sent an oem filter (VW #06J115403J) and he was curious as
to the reason for this four-spoke ring that also has attached
to it a recessed outer '2 walled' ring? Even the aftermarket
filters for this car have the same set up and they include
Purolator L35895, Wix 57561, and Baldwin's B7452. Have told
him to follow the design exactly so that the 'sandwich' will
sit exactly against the engine as the oem one, and sit against
the base of the filter also in the same way. This filter is
used by many other VW & Audi models and I wonder why it was
constructed in the way it was, especially the part of it that measures a huge 27mm in the thread which no other 'sandwich'
adaptors are available in?
 
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They(manufacturers) are requiring more flow to compensate for the oil cooler restriction,sorry,I've forgotten my fluid dynamics since about ten years ago.They want to open up flow sounds like.
 
Originally Posted By: ridgemanron
This filter is used by many other VW & Audi models and I wonder why it was constructed in the way it was, especially the part of it that measures a huge 27mm in the thread which no other 'sandwich'adaptors are available in?


Only Audi and VW can answer that. Fact is, it has a M27 x 1.5 thread, and your custom adapter plate will have to use the same in order to work.

http://www.purolatorautofilters.net/resources/Popup/Pages/PartDetailPopup.aspx?partnum=L35895

Isn't there any blocked off oil gallery taps on the engine you could put an oil temperature sensor? Usually most engines have one, and most service manuals will show where it is because it will typically be used to test the oil pressure with a manual pressure gauge.

What do the guru's on the VW Beetle chat boards say about adding an oil temperature sensor? Is there already a blocked off port someplace on the engine that can be used?
 
The adaptor will allow me to add other gauges like oil
pressure and boost if I decide to in the future. So
few of the 2012 Turbo Beetles have arrived, especially
the stick-shift version I'm waiting since August, and
so far I haven't heard much from others with regard to my
postings. I'm also connecting a water temp sensor to a
metal sleeve that is integrated into the upper radiator
hose. Would you believe that not one manual shift car,
either Turbo or naturally aspirated, has arrived anywhere
in the U.S. to date? All the VW computer tells me about
mine is that it has an ETA of 12/21/11 with regard to
reaching the 'Next Stage'....whatever that means?
 
Originally Posted By: ridgemanron
The adaptor will allow me to add other gauges like oil pressure and boost if I decide to in the future.


Boost on the oil filter adapter? ... humm.
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I just did something similar (different vehicle) using a sandwich adapter from Pareto Point industries www.paretopoint.com>. I don't know specifically if they make something to fit you VW, but they are a small enough company that if they don't, they might be able to do one custom.
 
The precision machinist company in Australia I've been
in contact with, is going to make the adapter 'sandwich'
for me. He only wanted me to find out what the circular
plastic 'channel' on the filter is there for and if he needs
to copy it exactly for insertion into the oil filter
connecting point in the block? It's added work and should
only have to be done if it's necessay. We don't know if
the 'channel' sits in an open space when inserted into the
block or if it sits on a raised piece of metal or plastic
that fills the 'channel'?
 
Originally Posted By: ridgemanron
The precision machinist company in Australia I've been
in contact with, is going to make the adapter 'sandwich'
for me. He only wanted me to find out what the circular
plastic 'channel' on the filter is there for and if he needs
to copy it exactly for insertion into the oil filter
connecting point in the block? It's added work and should
only have to be done if it's necessay. We don't know if
the 'channel' sits in an open space when inserted into the
block or if it sits on a raised piece of metal or plastic
that fills the 'channel'?


Photos of the VW filter.
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/06J115403J/ES2210977/

Not sure what the plastic ring is all about, and don't know if the other aftermarket filters such as Purolator and WIX, etc have the same setup.

Update - Looks like the WIX 57561 has the same plastic ring setup. I'd assume they all do.
http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/puImage.asp?FileName=http://www.wixconnect.com/images/filters/9869_1.gif

Assuming all filters for this car have the plastic ring setup, then ideally the sandwich adapter on the filter side needs to be the same configuration as the mount on the engine to accommodate the plastic ring. In other words, when the sandwich adapter is mounted on the engine, it should basically look the same as if you were looking at the filter mount on the engine without the adapter installed.
 
The opposite side of the adaptor will also have to
be the same configuration since it will, in essence,
be the new fitting area previously being in the block.
Have also noticed that the center plastic spins freely.
Could something mechanical in the block activate a
spinning action?
 
Originally Posted By: ridgemanron
The opposite side of the adaptor will also have to be the same configuration since it will, in essence, be the new fitting area previously being in the block.


Not necessarily - the engine side of the sandwich adapter doesn't necessarily have to look like the oil filter's base. All the sandwich adapter needs to do on the engine block side it seal well with the engine's filter mount, and have the right design and have plenty of oil passages for the oil to flow unrestricted.

Like I said before, when the adapter is mounted to the engine, the side that the filter mounts to must be similar in configuration to ensure the filter with the plastic ring setup mounts just like it would on the engine without the adapter present.
 
Found a video on Youtube that clearly shows the oil
filter housing on a 2008 Mark V GTI which uses the same
filter as the new Turbo Beetle. Can see that it is
basically a disc with a center opening (to accept the
thread), and a custom designed round receiver to accept
the round plastic channel on the filter. The machinist
will have to duplicate the design of the disc for both
sides of the adaptor he will be making for me. then I'll
be 'good to go'.......that is if my car ever arrives !

To see film, go to www.youtube.com and plot in - ECS
Tuning: Billet Aluminum Oil filter Housing Kit DIY
 
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Originally Posted By: ridgemanron

To see film, go to www.youtube.com and plot in - ECS
Tuning: Billet Aluminum Oil filter Housing Kit DIY


Direct link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHkLufyDpBs

I'm confused, as the YouTube video you referenced is showing a cartridge filter, whereas you are talking and referencing a spin-on oil filter in your earlier posts.
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Originally Posted By: ridgemanron
The car originally came with the same filter as mine and
and the only thing I'm concerned with is seeing the
exposed portion of the oil filter housing.


From you original post, you said:
Originally Posted By: ridgemanron
Did find a machinist in Australia who is quite experienced in 'sandwich' adaptors and he agreed to build me one. To help him I sent an oem filter (VW #06J115403J) and he was curious as to the reason for this four-spoke ring that also has attached to it a recessed outer '2 walled' ring?


The VW ##06J115403J oil filter is a spin-on filter ... not a cartridge filter like what was in the YouTube video.

VW ##06J115403J - NOT a cartilage filter.
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/06J115403J/ES2210977/

If your new VW has a cartridge filter like in the YouTube video, then you need to rethink this whole project IMO.
 
The oil filter housing is in my car, the one shown in the
video, and a slew of other VW's and Audi's. Why would it
matter to me if someone decided to replace the standard
filter and replace it with something different? I don't
need to know that information. All I ever needed to know
was what the exposed housing looked like so I could tell
the machinist what kind of a connecting part he would need
to create. Now, because of the video, anyone should be
able to plainly see that there is a fitment part of the
housing that will coordinate to the filter's plastic ring.
Are you unable to see that??????????????
 
Originally Posted By: ridgemanron
The oil filter housing is in my car, the one shown in the
video, and a slew of other VW's and Audi's. Why would it
matter to me if someone decided to replace the standard
filter and replace it with something different? I don't
need to know that information. All I ever needed to know
was what the exposed housing looked like so I could tell
the machinist what kind of a connecting part he would need
to create. Now, because of the video, anyone should be
able to plainly see that there is a fitment part of the
housing that will coordinate to the filter's plastic ring.
Are you unable to see that??????????????


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... look at time = 2:55 in the YouTube video. It CLEARLY shows that he is removing a CARTRIDGE filter from the OEM plastic housing. The mod the video is addressing is simply replacing the OEM plastic cartridge filter housing with a billet aluminum housing.

If your car uses the same setup, then you can NOT use (and don't need) a filter sandwich adapter which you originally eluded to being needed on the VW #06J115403J filter which is clearly a SPIN-ON oil filter. Two different animals! You better verify which filter setup your car is going to have before you get all excited about hiring someone to make something you can't use.
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Originally Posted By: ridgemanron
Now, because of the video, anyone should be
able to plainly see that there is a fitment part of the
housing that will coordinate to the filter's plastic ring.
Are you unable to see that??????????????


That is simply the center black nylon cage for the cartridge filter (a very typical setup for a CARTRIDGE oil filter) ... it is NOT anything related to the "plastic ring" you described on the VW #06J115403J SPIN-ON filter you made it sound like your car will use as shown here:
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/06J115403J/ES2210977/

Again ... better figure out exactly what filter your car is going to use.
 
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