JHZR2
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Maybe on a tiny sump? My euro cars that run nearly 2 gallons of HDEO take way too long, even when hot. Certainly more than ten pumps!
Oil extraction tool, 2023 version?
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I just resurrected my TopSider MVP. The pump is delicate but it works like a charm with Toyotas. Tried it on a Subaru, oil pan was baffled.
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Poke underneath a Tesla with its aero covers off and you might be surprised at what you find.You’d think you never have to deal with oil changes and would never find something like an oil filter attached to anything underneath. You’d be wrong because Teslas (at least the Model 3 and Y) do have oil filters that need changing.
Curious, how long?
The MityVac holds 8 quarts, I believe. I would probably empty it once with a large sump like yours, so there's that.
I pull over 6 quarts on the GS and Tundra with no problem and it is pretty quick. Oil does need to be hot, of course.
Way faster and cleaner than a traditional drain.
What happens if the oil filter is under the car?
And there's nothing new or innovative for the oil extractor world.
This^^^^^^^^^. I use a big Pela hand pump extractor for changes between Dealer changes. 6 quart capacity.
The description says the flow rate is 2.64 GPM.
How much oil are you pumping into your differential?
Then every 15 or 20K you get under the car to change the filter.
Not a lot of innovation in the extractor world, just the standard good/ better/ best manufacturers.
For an example, Mercedes dipstick tube is designed for extraction. The bottom sits right on the bottom of the oil pan. If you pull out the dipstick there is no oil on it. You have to take it out and put it back in to get oil reading. Dipstick removed allows time for the oil to enter the tube. MB prefers extraction for several reasons. Plastic panels have to be removed and many models, draining the oil gets it all over suspension parts.
If one doesn't know about this, the first time you pull out the dipstick on your new MB will scare the hell out of you. Ask me how I know.
Tried one of these but it doesn't hold enough oil for a MB and it's easy to collapse the can pumping it.
I have something similar to this:
Back when my VW's had topside access to the oil filter (except the Passat 2.0T FSI, used a Fumoto Valve w/ Nipple to drain into the container, as it had the oil filter under the car)
Newer Toyotas have an easily removeable access panel that gives you easy access to the oil drain plug and oil filter.
Is an oil filter that expensive that you would wait a few OCI's to change the filter?
What's the point of throwing away partially used products?
The manufacturer in my case doenst recommend a 1-1 FCI/OCI.
The filter manufacturers rate the filters to a mileage standard so they dont believe it's necessary.
Cutting them open and inspecting them at 20K reveals almost nothing if anything in them (in my use cases) suggesting they could be used for even longer than 20K.
I agree completely. I use this extractor that I got from WalMart, and it does an excellent job. I think it cost me $35.00 about 7 years ago.
I recently did a comparison on my Mercedes in which I measured the exact amount of oil that was removed when using the pan drain, compared to the amount of oil removed using this extractor.
Both amounts were exactly the same. I think newer cars are designed so the oil can be changed from the topside, which maximises the profits for the dealerships.
JHZR2
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Mine was a topsider. Had to be 30-45 minutes with hot oil, lots of pumping, no vacuum leaks.
I got some other small one that Inlike a lot but have never used it for oil changes. Just atf and psf.
JHZR2
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Another access panel that requires another tool and another five minutes.
Maybe if I was retired or unemployed I wouldn’t care. In my case I enjoy the DIY but want to get in an do my thing. Not more items with more screws to finagle with.
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