Off-duty police chief in PA suspended after pulling gun on motorcyclist

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As usual, the reported story is missing something. No idea, but maybe the rider flashed a gun or other weapon. You've got to wonder why a Chief of Police would draw his weapon knowing that security cameras would see it. I mean, we all have been on camera now for a while (traffic, security, You Tube, etc.), I'm sure he knows this better than us.
Cops are caught on cameras, unbeknownst to them, all the time in cases where they abuse their power. This isn't new. Those are the types of cops who simply shouldn't be cops. They can't control their rage. If drawing a gun on someone for traffic violations is now routine, that's a sad, sad standard they've devolved too.

And adding "maybe" conditions to help your argument is pathetic. The chief allegedly radioed in what the rider was doing and never mentioned anything of the sort about the rider showing a weapon.
 
Put the chief in a jail far away from his district and lose all union rights and pension.

As usual, the reported story is missing something. No idea, but maybe the rider flashed a gun or other weapon. You've got to wonder why a Chief of Police would draw his weapon knowing that security cameras would see it. I mean, we all have been on camera now for a while (traffic, security, You Tube, etc.), I'm sure he knows this better than us.

According to the news reports, erratic and reckless driving; sometimes on the sidewalk. But that's all according to the chief, who has now proven himself a liar.
 
Yes, because getting fired for a criminal offense is the real punishment. Oh the humanity, that poor chief is out of a job now. The rest of us get off lightly for such actions, by comparison.

I won't hold my breath that Chief Duane Fisher will be held accountable. He lied about what happened, filed a false police report, and would have gotten away with it without question, if not for the video footage that shows that the police chiefs version of events at least in the alley, was a complete fabrication. It puts into question everything else the police chief claimed.

I have respect for GOOD police officers. As I've said my best friend was a police officer who became one with the idea of helping people. His eyes were opened when he realized that some officers were in it for all the wrong reasons. Corrupt, power-mad imbeciles like duane fisher need to be fired, and charged.
 
As usual, the reported story is missing something. No idea, but maybe the rider flashed a gun or other weapon. You've got to wonder why a Chief of Police would draw his weapon knowing that security cameras would see it. I mean, we all have been on camera now for a while (traffic, security, You Tube, etc.), I'm sure he knows this better than us.

If he believed that, why wouldn't that be in the original report? The only thing in the report was about erratic driving and no plate. This was made public:

Aggravated Assault, Evading Arrest or Detention on Foot, Resisting Arrest, DUS-DUI Related Arrest, April 30, 2025, 1900 Blk Fruitville Pk - Benny Pena-Rivera, M/24, of Lititz, PA, was charged with the above offenses following an attempted traffic stop. Around 5:13 pm on Wednesday, April 30, 2025, Chief Fisher was in the area of Lititz Pk and Chester Rd. He was behind a black motorcycle that was not displaying a PA registration plate. The motorcycle ran a red light on Lititz Pike and York Road, passed vehicles on the right, rode up onto the sidewalk, weaved between vehicles, and did not use a turn signal. Chief Fisher attempted to stop the motorcycle in the area of 1900 Blk Fruitville Pk. Chief Fisher was in an unmarked police vehicle and identified himself as Manheim Township Police. The rider started the motorcycle as Chief Fisher attempted to stop him from leaving. The suspect, later identified as Benny Pena-Rivera, ignored orders to turn off the motorcycle, pushed/shoved Chief Fisher, and attempted to drive away. Pena-Rivera got off the motorcycle, and it was between him and Chief Fisher. Pena-Rivera used the bike to push Chief Fisher and make an escape on foot. A search of the area ensued. Pena-Rivera was identified as the rider by police investigation.​
Pena-Rivera was located in Lancaster City on Thursday, May 1, 2025. He was taken into custody without incident. Charges were filed for the above offenses. Pena-Rivera was arraigned by MDJ Monson and committed to Lancaster County Prison in lieu of $5,000 bail.​
 
That's a gross exaggeration. There are certain investigative interrogation tools which do involve strategy which may mislead suspects. Those concepts have been cleared as Constitutional all the way up to SCOTUS. So like it or not, it's a technique which passes muster. However, in general, this is not something LEOs do in the field. And they most certainly are not "trained to lie" in the manner in which you imply, as if it's a common practice.


That would depend on the situation. If the officer is doing an investigation which the person's lies would mislead the investigation, then yes, giving false info would be criminal. But in other situations, it is not a crime. So you've painted with too broad a brush.


That's not bad advice in general. But it may hinder you in other ways. For example, if you are in a situation where you are compelled to ID yourself and fail to do so when legally required, you may be subject to arrest. Whereas if you answer some general questions, you may not have any problems.


As it also should be taught to not jeopardize oneself by running away, pointing a gun at cops, the necessity of following commands, etc. Most of the bad endings to events can be traced to the civilian doing something stupid and/or illegal, then compounding the problems by doubling down and making a dangerous situation even worse.
I was with you until the last paragraph. Talk about a broad brush!
 
I believe public servants should have some accountability at a higher level than the Amazon driver. He took an oath to public service and
uphold the Constitution. Wow I read the report. I can't believe it only happened one time. It's a slippery slope. Every case this officer has been involved in and wrote a report should be reviewed.
 
I am very empathetic to the officers that risk their lives every day to uphold the Constitution and protect people.It's got to make their jobs very difficult when they know they're being scrutinized and judged by the public. Yes there are bad apples in every job. When that rank of the officer is police chief it really destroys the sanctity of the job.
 
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I usually come to defend the police because it is a very difficult job. Not the guns out stuff, but the day-in, day-out emotional babysitting they do. However I didn't read the report and gave the Chief too much credit. My fault for not reading, Chief's fault for being a lying sack o crap.
 
That's a gross exaggeration. There are certain investigative interrogation tools which do involve strategy which may mislead suspects. Those concepts have been cleared as Constitutional all the way up to SCOTUS. So like it or not, it's a technique which passes muster. However, in general, this is not something LEOs do in the field. And they most certainly are not "trained to lie" in the manner in which you imply, as if it's a common practice.
As an old Army MP I was sent to Military Police Investigation school when I did a permanent change of station to Korea. I remember an interview and interrogation class where the instructor challenged us to be creative. He gave an example where he had a soldier that didn't have much of an IQ. Sat him down next to a copy machine and told him it was a lie detector. He would ask him a question then push the copy button and a piece of paper would come out with LIE on it. Didn't take long for him to confess.

Law Enforcement has no duty to be truthful. Law enforcement can steal your money in the name of civil asset forfeiture and not even have to press charges. The supreme court says they can do things like this but it doesn't mean it's right.
 
Law Enforcement has no duty to be truthful. Law enforcement can steal your money in the name of civil asset forfeiture and not even have to press charges. The supreme court says they can do things like this but it doesn't mean it's right.
Yet someone in the country illegally needs complete due process. Sumfing broked.
 
The Constitution says that "people" have numerous rights. It doesn't require them to be "citizens." This was not a mistake by the writers.
So, people who are citizens of another country that live in another country have U.S. constitutional rights? They are "people" too, after all. Should we have to conduct a trial and get a court order before we drone strike them if they are enemy combatants? How about (at the time the Constitution was drafted) slaves? Were they not people? Did they have full constitutional rights? How about natives? They were not afforded constitutional rights until the 20th Century, almost 150 years after it was ratified. It could be argued they still don't have them fully. How about enemy combatants in this country? German spies and saboteurs caught in the U.S. during WWII were tried by military tribunals and swiftly executed. They were not afforded constitutional rights due citizens.

It may not a mistake by the writers, but I know of no precedent that would support your position.
I agree illegals have some rights. If we accord full constitutional rights reserved for citizens for people in the country illegally we would be buying the rope used to hang ourselves.
 
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