They have new filters now, from Toyota. No data of any kind on them. I guess the Amsoil party has run it’s course, or has it? I believe it was a test of one filter too, they really didn’t show any test references, just their own writing of the test numbers. Basically meaningless even when it came out.
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The Amsoil data said it as ISO 4548-12. But of course, people think they lie about everything ... sure, if you want lawsuits. Until more current efficiency info is divulged somewhere, then I'd bet the efficiency hasn't really changed much.
Clearly you are more concerned with your engine than your cardiovascular health
iirc, the Thai Denso filter is something like 94% efficiency... but it doesn't seem to affect the engines longevity.
And the almost no endcap design is very anti-BITOG
The Thai Denso cartridge-in-a-can filters are quite well regarded. Efficiency be ****ed.
Lots of high mileage Toyota’s running around with “terrible” efficiency filters.
I try to jog and walk most every day. I'm highly offended by your judgment of my eating habits
Well, I just told my wife I was going to head to the dealer Friday morning to get an oil filter and run another errand. She said, "you're going to drive 25 minutes when WalMart is 5 minutes away?" The judgment cut so deeply I need to process my final decision. But I'll let you all know. I do want a decent ADBV so some of you may have sold me on an EG or TG.
Hmmmmm ... tough question because I dont buy expensive filters (or oil) So normally Super Tech or a bulk pack from Purolator would be for me. Sometimes Motorcraft as well and actually right now in my 2017 Chevy truck, I have a few A/C Delco OEMs that I bought at a good price and most likely will continue to use them.
The Toyota @ $7 is cheap enough and would give me this warm fuzzy feeling so I would go with the Toyota.
Im not sure why you would drive 25 minutes anywhere, that's from the Stone Age.
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Do a search online and order the Toyota, they will be at your door at a great price in a few days.
The Toyota @ $7 is cheap enough and would give me this warm fuzzy feeling so I would go with the Toyota.
Im not sure why you would drive 25 minutes anywhere, that's from the Stone Age.
)Do a search online and order the Toyota, they will be at your door at a great price in a few days.
I'm only using OEM. Although I'm a SuperTech oil fan, when I was at Wal Mart I opened the SuperTech box and inspected the filters for my Ranger and 4 Runner and was not impressed.
There's no doubt there are a lot of cars in general running around with terrible filters...
BUT if your on this forum, have knowledge about the efficiency of one filter vs another...why would you choose the lesser filter?
Specs, data, and construction is what matters.
My local Toyota dealer always has sales on the OEM filters for $3.99
You keep saying that but explain why my two toyotas would not run properly on the Thai Denso service part?
I proved it was the filter. And these filters were sealed boxes with a hologram sticker purchased at the dealer.
What else could be the issue? The baseplate form was the same, only the "guts" were different.
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A. I’ve yet to see real data regarding the Denso filter efficiency.
B. It’s hard to argue with Thai Denso build quality. Its top notch.
C. Oil and filter don’t matter. But it’s fun to talk about anyway.
If you proved it was the filter, then the filter was either junk, or defective, and sounds like it caused the pump to hit pressure relief. Yet, people keep claiming Denso filters "flow well" (because they are inefficient) without ever seeing any real flow vs delta-p test data. Did you happen to cut open and inspect those filters?
I'm talking about oil filters that are designed and manufactured correctly, not defective oil filters. If you had 10 oil filters that where all within +/- a few PSI of flow delta-p, a PD oil pump doesn't know the difference and will put the same flow volume through all of them. You do realize that the oiling system itself typically contributes ~90% of the resistance to oil flow, and the filter is only ~10%.
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I'm a bit lost which Denso filter we're talking about...if its OEM with Toyota moniker, sure use it the manufacturer says to, I'm not going to argue with that.
A. If its aftermarket, why bother if they're not going to state an efficiency?
B. OK, construction is one piece of the puzzle like i've said. But it only tells whether its going to fail or not. Its no indication of the filter media quality/efficiency.
C. ....ok that's one opinion.
Sorry, we were talking about the OEM Toyota Denso filters made in Thailand. They have the “cartridge in a can” style construction. Quite good.
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