Thought of you guys as I filled up.
Checked the oil, too.
Checked the oil, too.
no engine oil dipstick by design
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Funny thing about it though. I've never seen an " Empty" on top, and a " Full" on the bottom. I have NEVER seen a refill before, but, it's in the correct location. LOL. Back in the 80's, you had that triple pack , ( oil pressure, temp, volts ). I'd mount it under the ashtray. Had those little bulbs that would always burn out after a while. Then you would hang an RPM gauge on the steering column. Look like an airplane cockpit when you're done LOL 
.....Yes Atex & Astro, I see you're dash's. Their cool too. Enjoy them At least you had the opportunity to get one. Financially, we'll be lucky to get out of NY when she retires. Both pensions won' be much. Might be stuck with the same beaters we have now, just in a retirement friendly state. Gotta get our daughter out of H.S. 1st, then off to college somewhere. About 8 more years of this terribly taxed state. Cross those bridges later. Thanks for all the pics. BITOG guys are the BEST !!!!!
.....Yes Atex & Astro, I see you're dash's. Their cool too. Enjoy them At least you had the opportunity to get one. Financially, we'll be lucky to get out of NY when she retires. Both pensions won' be much. Might be stuck with the same beaters we have now, just in a retirement friendly state. Gotta get our daughter out of H.S. 1st, then off to college somewhere. About 8 more years of this terribly taxed state. Cross those bridges later. Thanks for all the pics. BITOG guys are the BEST !!!!!
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BMW engines have no dipstick since 2004. Mine doesn’t too. No issues whatsoever. Actually in my generation BMW when oil reading becomes problematic, your water pump (electric) is about to fail (they are on same bus). So it actually gives you warning.
Pretty soon the kids won't understand Rosco P. Coltrane's insulting nickname for Enos. That's the real shame in this.
They sure do. Every plastic dipstick in all the Mercedes cars break off down in the tube where you can't get them out. The level sensor is an upgrade
I don't miss the oil dipstick - I actually prefer the electronic monitoring as it will pop an idiot light because let's be real, outside of this forum, no one regularly checks their oil level (or even opens their hoods).
I do think it would be a good idea to keep the dipstick as a back up, but will someone please think of the shareholders!
I do think it would be a good idea to keep the dipstick as a back up, but will someone please think of the shareholders!
edyvw
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Returning oil dipstick in Sequoia is like neurosurgery. Push harder and there goes dipstick.
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It is emissions thing. There is no doubt there is “convenience” part.
Biggest issue is maintenance. Forget BITOG. BITOG is not your average daily driver group. Having oil level sensor can actually warn driver of low level before oil pressure becomes an issue.
edyvw
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Yep, ^ this! Drop in oil pressure can create all kind of issues before it kills engine. Various valve train operations run on oil pressure.
Sensor will give warning before things go south.
I agree with Kevin. Nobody outside the BITOG forum checks their oil. That statement put a WHOLE new spin on things. Kev is 100% correct. I didn't even think about that aspect of this thread. Heck, I'm lucky if there's gas in the car if my wife's been using it. I take back everything I said about dipstickless engines ( but there will always be one in my cars. Not buying any new car for a loooooonnnngggg time ) Thanks for opening up that back door Kev
Engineers crossed the line nearly 100 years ago by using a cheesy lawnmower part (dipstick) to replace a properly engineered gauge on a motorcar.
What’s amusing is to hear arguments that the lawnmower part is superior to the gauge.
Here is a properly instrumented engine - with oil quantity, temperature, and pressure.
MANY thanks again Kevin. You know just the right way to present a statement. Maybe Kev And I are unknown twins Goblin ??????? You know what they say.....,,,,,twins think alike
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Futuristic BITOG thread:
Is your oil level readout more accurate with thick or thin oil?
Is your oil level readout more accurate with thick or thin oil?
it just means, your engine went missing.
I am going to assume these oil level sensors are capacitive probes?
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I agree, but the Rolls still has a sight glass on the side of the oil tank to manually verify Qty if placed on MEL.
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It's inevitable. Justifies the engineer's salaries. They'll start with the high end models, and work their way down. Just like " Push To Start"car's they have nowadays. Who-da thunk they would pull a stunt like that???. Rely a a key fob to open/close doors and start the car.?? Who remembers when GM had 2 keys ? One for ignition, one for all other locks ? I'm taking my 2 relics to the grave ( the third will be my daughter's when she graduates H.S. , she's not keepin it ) All three have door locks, ignition key with alarm fob, and engine / transmission dipsticks. Besides, how far do cabbage patch heads travel anyway to even justify a new car ?????. Supermarkets and doctor appointments.?!?!...Bingo ?!?!...,,Mall walkin ?!?!..,,the Bank ?!?!. Rather give that new car money to our daughter to help her pay down college expenses. She comes 1st. My mom is 85 with a 2024 Toyota Cross. That thing has 2,500 miles on it. It sits in the garage 95% of the time. Tried to talk her out of buying it. Her 2017 CRV had 18,000 miles on it....Got hit over the head on a trade in......... " I want something new, period ! " she said. My wife and I are not like that. We don't care what we drive, as long as they run. BTW, mom hates that new Toyota...,,,she can't figure out out half of the toys that are in it. LOL
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Or a metal dipstick.
Sure, but back then, I would argue that makers were in a race to the top, with quality being number one....making a namesake and reputation.
"properly engineered" THEN would be a gauge and sender that would work near perfectly for 100 years, made by hand by folks who cared about quality
"properly engineered" TODAY would be last just long enough to buffer a week or two or a few thousand miles to get past warranty.....not at the fault of the engineers, but by the bean counters