New thought for a test Dino vs synthetic

[Coprolite]

Microwaves will have an effect any polar molecules, but that will introduce a bias based upon fluid composition.

Why do we need uncontrolled lab experiments when there are so many industry standards available to compare our apples and oranges?

I think people do this because modern day oil is too good. If the standard OCI was 1k/1 month people would be too busy changing oil and running UOAs to think about all of this.

 

[carwreck]

Originally Posted By: Zeus103363
Everyone knows the same ole Dino vs synthetic argument. Just had a thought. Why not take an old microwave oven, pour up a cup of Dino In a glass beaker...

There are some applications that are being developed for testing oil with microwaves. However, they are not for comparing Sinclair* to Amsoil.
Also, you would need much more lab equipment....

Some examples...
1. Add microwave-absorbent (MA) material to samples of waste oil, before subjecting them to a process called pyrolysis http://gas2.org/2011/04/06/brits-microwave-used-motor-oil-to-make-usable-fuel/
2. combine centrifugal force with microwave irradiation to rapidly break emulsions and dispersions containing viscous oil, water and solids http://www.inl.gov/techtransfer/factsheets/env/microwave_assisted_centrifuge.pdf

( * SINCLAIR marketing created "Dino" )

 

[KCJeep]

Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Time out!

Think, people, microwaves work by heating WATER MOLECULES. The reason microwaves heat foods up is due to the water content in the foods, not the foods themselves.

Microwaving oils is silly and futile.


Yep, I tried to microwave some STP once to make it runny before I added it. The microwave didn't even make it warm.

 

[circuitsmith]

Microwaves heat/excite water because each water molecule creates an electric dipole.
They line up in an electromagnetic field much like compass needles,
then swing back and fourth at the microwave frequency.
Oil molecules are non-polar and essentially ignore microwaves.
Place a cup of any clean motor oil next to a cup of water in the microwave oven.
The water will boil and the oil will stay cold.
Don't try to microwave oil by itself, that's about the same as running the oven empty.

 

[C4Dave]

Why not put some pasta in dino and syn oil, let it sit for 38 minutes, then throw it against the wall? I know this isn't scientific, but surely it would tell us something.

 

[RPMster]

Hey this might work as a simulation for a GM 3800 with coolant contamination. Mix a little engine coolant with conventional oil, then microwave it for 10 minutes. Repeat with synthetic.

After heating each batch, open the microwave door and take a deep whiff. Whichever one smells better is the winner!

 

[mechtech2]

Originally Posted By: salv
Regardless, microwaves cause the water molecules in an object to release energy in the form of heat. The maximum temperature that an item in a microwave will reach is 210 degrees F (boiling point).
Also, be careful that none of the metallic additives will result in arcing, no metal in the microwave

First,the boiling point of water is 212F, not210.
And temps of objects in a MW can get much hotter than that.