JeePing... Hogwash, show us the studies that show otherwise. Your offensive use of the word "retard" shows a lot. Sad. This type of test has been done many times with different types of vehicles. It's empirical and the measurements tell a real story.
CT8, did I say it was broken in at the factory? No, I did not. Is that how you read my response to doing 4 oil changes in the first 1,000 miles? I am saying it is excessive to my knowledge and explaining why. Not harmful in the least, but excessive.
No heartburn towards Trav, just my take on it from rebuilding engines and breaking them in and looking at oil filters, sending oil in for analysis.
The initial piston/cylinder break in is well under way on that first start and test run, and any "major" debris from any system is going out the drain hole before it leaves the factory. Stands to reason with the fill and drain at the factory they don't have problems with by-products of production ruining engines. Whether oil is in there for 5 minutes or 600 miles, if there is debris, the oil is splashed around so much in there it will find its way anywhere right away. It's not going to sit there for 599 miles and then get you on the 600th. Think about it...
Any oil getting up into the valve train is filtered oil. I would not expect there to be anything getting into a cam bearing cap or scar a cam lobe. There is a LOT of oil flowing right off the bat, the bulk of whatever debris is flushed and gone at the factory.
Most definitely run the bike up in the RPM range under load and let engine braking slow the bike down. This keeps the rings pressed out against the cylinder walls and keeps oil up on the cylinder walls as things mate together.
My response was simply to point out the excessive amount of oil changing going on in the first 1000 miles. Take it for what it's worth, believe what you want, and ride long and prosper!
CT8, did I say it was broken in at the factory? No, I did not. Is that how you read my response to doing 4 oil changes in the first 1,000 miles? I am saying it is excessive to my knowledge and explaining why. Not harmful in the least, but excessive.
No heartburn towards Trav, just my take on it from rebuilding engines and breaking them in and looking at oil filters, sending oil in for analysis.
The initial piston/cylinder break in is well under way on that first start and test run, and any "major" debris from any system is going out the drain hole before it leaves the factory. Stands to reason with the fill and drain at the factory they don't have problems with by-products of production ruining engines. Whether oil is in there for 5 minutes or 600 miles, if there is debris, the oil is splashed around so much in there it will find its way anywhere right away. It's not going to sit there for 599 miles and then get you on the 600th. Think about it...
Any oil getting up into the valve train is filtered oil. I would not expect there to be anything getting into a cam bearing cap or scar a cam lobe. There is a LOT of oil flowing right off the bat, the bulk of whatever debris is flushed and gone at the factory.
Most definitely run the bike up in the RPM range under load and let engine braking slow the bike down. This keeps the rings pressed out against the cylinder walls and keeps oil up on the cylinder walls as things mate together.
My response was simply to point out the excessive amount of oil changing going on in the first 1000 miles. Take it for what it's worth, believe what you want, and ride long and prosper!
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