Now toss Mobil 1 5w30 Truck & SUV into the mix. I used Mobil 1 5w30 regular for ~ 90,000 miles and switched to Mobil 1 5w30 T & SUV. I see little difference in my 115,000 mile UOA but, give the nod to T & SUV.
NEW Mobil 1 High Mileage LOL
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I don't think it's even on the shelf yet, so no one knows exactly what it's made from.
I think Amsoil recommends its XL 10w40 engine oil as a good high milege engine oil. Since it is a synthetic it will have good cold weather performance and its thicker viscosity will reduce oil consumption in older engines.
Just at my local SprawlMart yesterday and saw that they indeed now have M1 High Mileage in 10w-30 and (!) 10w-40. They were priced in line with the standard M1 products. SL rated to boot. quarts only.
Keep buying XON products. I own a lot of their stock and need to make money!
I might try the 10w40 in my GTI, since it calls for a 40 wt. synthetic. I don't give a poo if M1 is made from cow manure, and I don't care that most now feel it is over-priced, I'll still try it. I guess I'm like Mikey.
The 10w-40 will probably find its way into my 1.8T Passat at some point (I'll just keep quiet about it).
My M1 15w50 EP/5w30 (Target @$4.09/Qt) mix seems to be far more resistant to consumption than my previous fills (GC, Maxlife Syn) FYI.
My M1 15w50 EP/5w30 (Target @$4.09/Qt) mix seems to be far more resistant to consumption than my previous fills (GC, Maxlife Syn) FYI.
Remember, Mobil 1 wqs supposed to come in 10w-40EP, but the formula never made it to the shelves, sans a few specialty suppliers like avlubes.
GeorgeCLS
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The lab called today, Monday, 2/12/07 and indicated that they sourced two samples of Group IV PAO from two different sources and that the GC traces are very, very similar to the Mobil 1 EP GC that they ran originally. The only missing component is the comparative trace for a Group III, which is still missing. However, the lab's comments were that they are "98% certain that the major component (base stock) for the Mobil 1 EP submitted sample is Group IV, PAO."
They are continuing to resource the Group III for absolution....
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The lab called today, Monday, 2/12/07 and indicated that they sourced two samples of Group IV PAO from two different sources and that the GC traces are very, very similar to the Mobil 1 EP GC that they ran originally. The only missing component is the comparative trace for a Group III, which is still missing. However, the lab's comments were that they are "98% certain that the major component (base stock) for the Mobil 1 EP submitted sample is Group IV, PAO."
They are continuing to resource the Group III for absolution....
Well, Mobil could put an end to this mess any time they choose to, with a simple one paragraph, totally trade secret safe, statement. Instead, all we get from EM is persistent, mealy-mouthed Group-III speak.
I too appreciate the time and money spent by those who have done lab work on the various M1 formulations. At this point, it looks to me like we're left with:
1) one set of results that seem to indicate Group-III
2) another set of results that seem to indicate Group-IV
3) a manufacturer that uses language typically employed when an oil brewer wants to sell a Group-III oil and call it "full synthetic".
This is NOT a good time for ExxonMobil to exercise its right to remain silent. If they have a leg to stand on (i.e., M1 is still a G-IV/V product), then they need to stand up, speak out, and slay this ***** dragon for once and for all!
I too appreciate the time and money spent by those who have done lab work on the various M1 formulations. At this point, it looks to me like we're left with:
1) one set of results that seem to indicate Group-III
2) another set of results that seem to indicate Group-IV
3) a manufacturer that uses language typically employed when an oil brewer wants to sell a Group-III oil and call it "full synthetic".
This is NOT a good time for ExxonMobil to exercise its right to remain silent. If they have a leg to stand on (i.e., M1 is still a G-IV/V product), then they need to stand up, speak out, and slay this ***** dragon for once and for all!
Is the HM thicker than regular M1 10W-30? Does anyone have the cSt numbers for M1 HM 10W-30 {???}
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Someone may, I don't. Typically it seems to take XOM a month or so after a new oil appears on the website for its data sheet to follow.
Yeah. . . I just checked their web site; it's not up yet.
i am bumping this, because this is still "new" news.
also, Merkava 4: I would hope they eventually get the spec sheets for HM 10w-30 & 10w-40, but they STILL don't have a sheet for the 0w-20, and that has been on the web site for months.
also, Merkava 4: I would hope they eventually get the spec sheets for HM 10w-30 & 10w-40, but they STILL don't have a sheet for the 0w-20, and that has been on the web site for months.
Mobil 1 High-Mileage Extreme Racing Extended Energy-Conserving Clean Deposit Shield Plus.
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From my thread: http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...;gonew=1#UNREAD
I emailed mobil1 regarding the PDS for their new 10w-40 high mileage oil. I thought the viscosity might be a nice match for my 91 BMW, which likes rotella 5w-40 syn... but which would like a 10w-40 or 10w-50 even better according to the owner's manual...
Anyway, I asked them when theyd have the owners manual, and if I could assume that the formulation (without providing any real formulation info) would predominately by group III.
Here is what I got:
Thank you for your inquiry,
Mobil is currently working on the PDS for these products, they will
be available shortly.
To meet the demanding requirements of today's
specifications (and our customers' expectations) Mobil 1 uses
high-performance synthetic fluids, including polyalphaolefins (PAO),
along
with a proprietary system of additives. In fact, each Mobil 1
viscosity
grade uses a specific combination of synthetic fluids and selected
additives in order to tailor the viscosity grade to its unique
requirement.
Mobil1 motor oils are 100% synthetic, utilizing on high performance
synthetic basestocks.
--
Thank you for choosing ExxonMobil products.
If you need further assistance, please contact ExxonMobil at 1-800-ASK-MOBIL
-Matt Jacob
FWIW...
JMH
I emailed mobil1 regarding the PDS for their new 10w-40 high mileage oil. I thought the viscosity might be a nice match for my 91 BMW, which likes rotella 5w-40 syn... but which would like a 10w-40 or 10w-50 even better according to the owner's manual...
Anyway, I asked them when theyd have the owners manual, and if I could assume that the formulation (without providing any real formulation info) would predominately by group III.
Here is what I got:
Thank you for your inquiry,
Mobil is currently working on the PDS for these products, they will
be available shortly.
To meet the demanding requirements of today's
specifications (and our customers' expectations) Mobil 1 uses
high-performance synthetic fluids, including polyalphaolefins (PAO),
along
with a proprietary system of additives. In fact, each Mobil 1
viscosity
grade uses a specific combination of synthetic fluids and selected
additives in order to tailor the viscosity grade to its unique
requirement.
Mobil1 motor oils are 100% synthetic, utilizing on high performance
synthetic basestocks.
--
Thank you for choosing ExxonMobil products.
If you need further assistance, please contact ExxonMobil at 1-800-ASK-MOBIL
-Matt Jacob
FWIW...
JMH
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