Is the M now short for malarkey? I don’t even like Mobil and I’ve never heard of this…
Surprised we didn’t also get the “I heard Mobil 1 causes more engine wear because higher iron shows up on its UOAs”
It depends on the application, either way I'll gladly take a 1-2 mpg hit and use Xw-30 over an Xw-20 in both of my Jeeps.
Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing isn't it! How long til you guys team up and try to get me banned again? I'll wait...
Kinda reminds me of todays social media and suppression of the truth by a certain party...
Engine builder for 25+ years, including $60,000 BMW race engines, Karting engines, Drag racing engines including 900hp Hondas and 1000hp SBF's are my technical reasoning, I know when an engine is making excessive noise, something is wrong! I don't need internet trolls or wannabe mechanics/Tribologists like you telling me I don't know what I'm doing. There is a reason almost NO race team uses standard M1 oils anymore...
This would certainly be a valid test and I would absolutely bet money it would show results and proof to my findings. I'll see if I can find a good decibel meter to borrow, but then again, the M1 fanboys on here still wouldn't accept it and call my results "flawed" for some reason...
It is extremely difficult (and very expensive) to make accurate and repeatable sound pressure measurements. Even with all your superior racing experience you cannot do it.This would certainly be a valid test and I would absolutely bet money it would show results and proof to my findings. I'll see if I can find a good decibel meter to borrow, but then again, the M1 fanboys on here still wouldn't accept it and call my results "flawed" for some reason...
If it happens every single time, I think a cool test for you to try would be to get a certified dB meter and a GoPro, have your engine ready for an oil change with whatever oil you normally run, and get ready to collect some hard-to-dispute data.
I agree, but for the purposes of this level of testing, the scientific rigor I laid out would (at least in my mind) satisfy most of us bench racers on the board.
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i did one with a Db meter - PUP louder than M1If it happens every single time, I think a cool test for you to try would be to get a certified dB meter and a GoPro, have your engine ready for an oil change with whatever oil you normally run, and get ready to collect some hard-to-dispute data.
1. Fire up the GoPro.
2. Set the dB meter to A-weighted average and place it exactly 1’ above the valve cover, then start your car (from cold). Let it run for 5 minutes while getting the readout on video. If you really want to be super thorough, repeat the 5-minute test at least 3 times both before and after the oil change.
3. Stop the car, perform the oil change (leave same filter in place) to Mobil 1 with the video running and without moving the dB meter.
4. Once the oil change is completed, reset the dB meter to clear the average of oil “A”. Start the car (cold again after the oil change), and let it run for 5 minutes while getting the readout on video.
5. Compare the before and after results of the two tests; if the deviation between the two measurements is less than the accuracy of your dB meter, the noise level is identical.
6. Upload the complete unedited video to YouTube to silence your critics!
This test may confirm your audible findings; however one thing to remember is that simply the frequency of the noise from your engine may be different with different oils, but not the amplitude- no one’s ear perceives sounds objectively, and is coloring the assessment, no matter who hears it. The dB meter is calibrated to evaluate all noises equally, and would give you a very good case to state both here and to Mobil if your test shows there is a difference.
Plus, if you went to this level of scientific experiment, not only would you know you weren’t “hearing things” but would also satisfy even the data hawks here that your claims were valid. Just sayin.
Think about how long this claim has existed - dozens of formulas - not that much different from other brands.I agree, but for the purposes of this level of testing, the scientific rigor I laid out would (at least in my mind) satisfy most of us bench racers on the board.
I’m not on the hook to determine if they exist - maybe you and the OP can hook up …
