Originally Posted By: Vikas
How in the world somebody can get away with comparing Prius with Accord and saying Accord beats it? Sorry but if somebody makes invalid comparison, expect to get called out on it.
That is because you are trying to make it out to be a rigorous comparison, when I just provided some driving observations in MY thread specifically about the Honda Accord Hybrid.
Other than trying to be an annoyance, why even make a deal of it? Invalid? What, I drove two cars and tried out their respective hybrid modes, and still think that my HAH is better? So what? Sorry, people do this every single day. Would you be making a deal if I said I drove a camry and then a corolla and liked the drive in the Camry better? Earth shattering. LOL.
Sorry, operational characteristics of one vendor's hybrid scheme versus another is indeed valid data. While characteristics of ride, road feel, acceleration, etc. may be apples to oranges (which is something that I implied in the discussion) and not a within class comparison (which is something others asked about), it still is an observation that can be documented. Me driving the two cars does not make me Motor Trend or Car and Driver magazine.
Since your reading comprehension appears to be off a bit, let me remind you of the main take-aways:
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
There really is a substantial difference in throttle response, engine response and willingness to put power down that the drivability, especially with a few people in it, is substantially better in the accord. And remember, I keep and LOVE 30+ year old Mercedes diesel cars with hp and torque ratings in the double digits. So I know slow cars. But the Prius is a different kind of slow. A 240d is slow but willing, a Prius is slow and not. The HAH couldn't care less and just goes at will.
Another thing that bugged me on the Prius was regeneration. The HAH coasts MUCH better, and transitions into a regent mode at a higher level more readily. To the prius's compliment, the transition of states in the Prius drivetrain is far more seamless than in the accord. In the Accord, I'd describe it as the feel of a smooth auto teams shifting gears, just without the engine dynamics associated. It's really just a nearly unnoticeable bump, but you're aware something happened. In the Prius it's absolutely smooth and seamless.
Transition of propulsion and generation states was something I praised the prius on. The controls for enabling coasting and regeneration modes is not something that is intrinsically different in a $25k vs a $35k or a small hatch vs mainstream midsize sedan. Sorry.
How in the world somebody can get away with comparing Prius with Accord and saying Accord beats it? Sorry but if somebody makes invalid comparison, expect to get called out on it.
That is because you are trying to make it out to be a rigorous comparison, when I just provided some driving observations in MY thread specifically about the Honda Accord Hybrid.
Other than trying to be an annoyance, why even make a deal of it? Invalid? What, I drove two cars and tried out their respective hybrid modes, and still think that my HAH is better? So what? Sorry, people do this every single day. Would you be making a deal if I said I drove a camry and then a corolla and liked the drive in the Camry better? Earth shattering. LOL.
Sorry, operational characteristics of one vendor's hybrid scheme versus another is indeed valid data. While characteristics of ride, road feel, acceleration, etc. may be apples to oranges (which is something that I implied in the discussion) and not a within class comparison (which is something others asked about), it still is an observation that can be documented. Me driving the two cars does not make me Motor Trend or Car and Driver magazine.
Since your reading comprehension appears to be off a bit, let me remind you of the main take-aways:
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
There really is a substantial difference in throttle response, engine response and willingness to put power down that the drivability, especially with a few people in it, is substantially better in the accord. And remember, I keep and LOVE 30+ year old Mercedes diesel cars with hp and torque ratings in the double digits. So I know slow cars. But the Prius is a different kind of slow. A 240d is slow but willing, a Prius is slow and not. The HAH couldn't care less and just goes at will.
Another thing that bugged me on the Prius was regeneration. The HAH coasts MUCH better, and transitions into a regent mode at a higher level more readily. To the prius's compliment, the transition of states in the Prius drivetrain is far more seamless than in the accord. In the Accord, I'd describe it as the feel of a smooth auto teams shifting gears, just without the engine dynamics associated. It's really just a nearly unnoticeable bump, but you're aware something happened. In the Prius it's absolutely smooth and seamless.
Transition of propulsion and generation states was something I praised the prius on. The controls for enabling coasting and regeneration modes is not something that is intrinsically different in a $25k vs a $35k or a small hatch vs mainstream midsize sedan. Sorry.