We all need to remember this is really an Alfa Romeo Tonale. Selling it in the U.S. is a complete afterthought. They tried, it didn’t work. Likely cost them very little. Not Like they made a ground up effort to make a new vehicle.
New Dodge Hornets reported as selling 33 percent below MSRP- worth consideration??
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Objectively, those cars are being described by yourself and viewed, generally, as "good cars" in that price range because of a general reputation, over multiple generations, of reliability. Had this vehicle had that same reputation, it would be reasonably priced in the segment, if those other offerings are viewed as reasonably priced.
The BMW X1 is also in that price range and of course would be slagged by many people on here for not being a Toyota or Honda.
The problem is that the "Hornet" has neither the reputation of reliability (even if it ends up being reliable, which seems unlikely), or of luxury (though it's probably well equipped, I haven't looked) to justify the price tag.
I've never liked the RAV4 or the CR-V, but for Stellantis to target this segment with a Dodge-branded product, it should be priced below them like a Hyundai/KIA offering because of the lack of brand capital in that segment.
100% sure, you give it a few revs and it went away. Only occured when idling.
I saw something a few months ago about a HellCat that was only a couple years old, and it had blown a head-gasket. Parts are not available.
So, knowing that the more an engine is souped up, the more likely it will require significant maintance, who wants to buy something that parts are not available for. What good is a warranty if parts can not be found for it.
Think I'm not right about this, ask the parts department for engine parts for a powerful vehicle that's only 2 years old.
While the Hornet ain't a HellCat, look at how hard they are pushing the available engines. 177 HP from a 1.3 L, or 268 HP from a 2.0 L.
Again, just for the fun of it, ask about engine parts availability, such as a head gasket.
So, knowing that the more an engine is souped up, the more likely it will require significant maintance, who wants to buy something that parts are not available for. What good is a warranty if parts can not be found for it.
Think I'm not right about this, ask the parts department for engine parts for a powerful vehicle that's only 2 years old.
While the Hornet ain't a HellCat, look at how hard they are pushing the available engines. 177 HP from a 1.3 L, or 268 HP from a 2.0 L.
Again, just for the fun of it, ask about engine parts availability, such as a head gasket.
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Thanks, it was a YouTube video by The Car Wizzard where he said they were not available.
So much of this is based on Fiat hate. The Hornet is assembled on the same assembly line as the Alfa Romeo version. Maybe some old Alfa fans might think that’s cool. The world is changing.
One thing for sure. It took Stellantis to save Jeep and the Charger. Maybe some folks need more appreciation. Just sayin’.
One other thing, the new Ram 1500 is manufactured in Sterling Heights, Michigan and most of the Jeeps are also assembled in the USA. Stellantis provides a decent amount off American jobs.
One thing for sure. It took Stellantis to save Jeep and the Charger. Maybe some folks need more appreciation. Just sayin’.
One other thing, the new Ram 1500 is manufactured in Sterling Heights, Michigan and most of the Jeeps are also assembled in the USA. Stellantis provides a decent amount off American jobs.
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I preffered the Volare
Voh - law - ray, come see, Plymouth Voh - law - ray, all a new car should be Gah, you have triggered a long-dormant ear worm!
If the Car Wizard said it, odds are at least 70/30 that the opposite is true!
Mister we can use a guy like Iacocca again.....
Gah, you have triggered a long-dormant ear worm!
I don't believe that is engine horsepower - its horsepower including the electric motors. Very different scenario.
I think both engines have been around for quite some time. I don't know much about them, but I think the 2.0l platform in some form is slated to replace the 3.6 Pentastar.
It’s an Alpha Romeo! What’s a matta wit you?
Here is something on Alpha Romeo.
Good post.
This thread is littered with bad data. I am not saying its good or bad but comparing this to CR-V or Rav4 family car is incorrect. You may not want one, and neither do I, but comparing it to X1 as @OVERKILL did is correct. Its a very different segment - and this is really a Alpha with a Dodge emblem. And while you may not want one here, if you live in a country with little to no speed limit and very small parking spaces, you might.
So I don't think it will ever be a success here. Doesn't make it a bad vehicle.
Apparently they have been around since 2023? I saw one in my work parking lot for a month or two. Must have been a rental or something while someone's vehicle was in the shop getting fixed.
Haven't seen one before or since.
If it was cheap enough I could see it being a bargain. But they're so expensive even with the discount, it wouldn't be a good value IMO.
There aren't any dodg....er "ram" trucks on discount locally , either. I wouldn't mind finding a dod .. "RAM" classic tradesman hemi brand new with a discount.
Haven't seen one before or since.
If it was cheap enough I could see it being a bargain. But they're so expensive even with the discount, it wouldn't be a good value IMO.
There aren't any dodg....er "ram" trucks on discount locally , either. I wouldn't mind finding a dod .. "RAM" classic tradesman hemi brand new with a discount.
Interesting looking vehicle. I am actually in the market for a CUV to potentially replace my wife’s Impreza. The Dodge is knocked out of the running for a few reasons. First and foremost, IIHS has not tested it so I have no idea about its crashworthiness or headlight performance. Second, all trim levels recommend premium fuel. Third, fuel economy is appalling; 24 MPG combined. The Toyota Corolla Cross can be had for $24-32K MSRP and has similar interior dimensions, gets solid safety marks, and great mileage 30MPG for the non hybrid and 42 for the hybrid.
Sure the Hornet can go 0-60 in 5.6 seconds compared to the Corolla Cross at 7.3 seconds but at those prices for fuel, I honestly don’t know who they are trying to sell these cars to. Not too many commuters are looking at those aggressive 0-60 times and if they do, they just buy a Tesla.
Sure the Hornet can go 0-60 in 5.6 seconds compared to the Corolla Cross at 7.3 seconds but at those prices for fuel, I honestly don’t know who they are trying to sell these cars to. Not too many commuters are looking at those aggressive 0-60 times and if they do, they just buy a Tesla.
While I'm doing my morning errands, I'll pop into my local Plymouth DeSoto dealer IF I can find a parking spot at a neighboring business.
Last time I went into a Dodge dealership, a worker tried to block me in (an old dealership trick).
You're dealing with a company which OKed the use of the name "Jailbreak" for one of its cars.
And remember, the Laser was "faster than Porsche"...a dated example, but still telling.
Last time I went into a Dodge dealership, a worker tried to block me in (an old dealership trick).
You're dealing with a company which OKed the use of the name "Jailbreak" for one of its cars.
And remember, the Laser was "faster than Porsche"...a dated example, but still telling.
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Sounds very typical for Youtube unfortunately.
