New Dodge Hornets reported as selling 33 percent below MSRP- worth consideration??

Interesting looking vehicle. I am actually in the market for a CUV to potentially replace my wife’s Impreza. The Dodge is knocked out of the running for a few reasons. First and foremost, IIHS has not tested it so I have no idea about its crashworthiness or headlight performance. Second, all trim levels recommend premium fuel. Third, fuel economy is appalling; 24 MPG combined. The Toyota Corolla Cross can be had for $24-32K MSRP and has similar interior dimensions, gets solid safety marks, and great mileage 30MPG for the non hybrid and 42 for the hybrid.

Sure the Hornet can go 0-60 in 5.6 seconds compared to the Corolla Cross at 7.3 seconds but at those prices for fuel, I honestly don’t know who they are trying to sell these cars to. Not too many commuters are looking at those aggressive 0-60 times and if they do, they just buy a Tesla.
The slowest of the newer vehicles in my garage does 0-60 in six seconds flat, so some of us prioritize acceleration.
 
Good post.

This thread is littered with bad data. I am not saying its good or bad but comparing this to CR-V or Rav4 family car is incorrect. You may not want one, and neither do I, but comparing it to X1 as @OVERKILL did is correct. Its a very different segment - and this is really a Alpha with a Dodge emblem. And while you may not want one here, if you live in a country with little to no speed limit and very small parking spaces, you might.

So I don't think it will ever be a success here. Doesn't make it a bad vehicle.
Dodges mistake was marketing it as a muscle car. There’s ad videos of a Hornet leading a pack of Hellcats and a Demon while making reference to “The Brotherhood”. So, it instantly and deservedly became the butt of jokes. A recent one is still trying to say it’s some kind of torque monster that will connect to your inner child. :rolleyes:
 
My sister-in-law not only has one, but two of the hybrid Alfa Romeo version of this vehicle. They got some deal on the two last year. I've been called over to their place twice because they attempted charging them simultaneously on the same 20amp circuit in the garage, with their level 1 chargers. It fried the GFCI outlet upstream of the outlets they had the cars plugged into. Never tripped the breaker.

In terms of these CUVs in general, I believe they've had several breakdowns that required tows to the dealer.
 
The plug in hybrid is likely the least reliable version, and unfortunately the one they push the most.

There is an Alfa at work, it looks good but I have noticed that a dealer loaner has been in its place for a significant period at least once.
 
Dodges mistake was marketing it as a muscle car. There’s ad videos of a Hornet leading a pack of Hellcats and a Demon while making reference to “The Brotherhood”. So, it instantly and deservedly became the butt of jokes. A recent one is still trying to say it’s some kind of torque monster that will connect to your inner child. :rolleyes:
This sounds about right for Dodge marketing.
 
I see one Hornet here in Napa (a fairly well to do area). Usually parked in front of the same store so it’s someone that works there.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen another one while driving around.

HOWEVER, yesterday I drove to Oakland (if you aren’t familiar, NOT A well to do area) and I saw not one but THREE different Hornets.

So, someone is buying them. Probably the people that got declined for a car loan on a Nissan Rogue so they went with the Hornet instead because with the incentives the LTV ratio was better?

Scary thought, huh?
 
These are getting to be super-cheap at the auctions. But I haven't bought a single one.

I have a very strict policy on buying anything that I wouldn't be willing to keep myself for the long haul. These vehicles have all the markings of a sales dud with premium parts and service cost.

If you're buying a car just to get a 'deal' you're buying it for the wrong reason.
 
I see one Hornet here in Napa (a fairly well to do area). Usually parked in front of the same store so it’s someone that works there.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen another one while driving around.

HOWEVER, yesterday I drove to Oakland (if you aren’t familiar, NOT A well to do area) and I saw not one but THREE different Hornets.

So, someone is buying them. Probably the people that got declined for a car loan on a Nissan Rogue so they went with the Hornet instead because with the incentives the LTV ratio was better?

Scary thought, huh?
Those could be field cars as FCA/Stellantis has numerous office locations in CA.
 
HOWEVER, yesterday I drove to Oakland (if you aren’t familiar, NOT A well to do area) and I saw not one but THREE different Hornets.
Also depends on what part of Oakland too. Temescal and Rockridge are full of Teslas, Audis and Subarus, the ‘hood(I define it as between High St and 98th Ave for north/south and MacArthur Blvd/880 being the east/west boundaries, but 73rd-98th aves can get rough) is a different country.

The ones I see are rentals. Michael Stead, one of the major CDJR dealers in the Bay Area has plenty at their Hilltop store.
 
Also depends on what part of Oakland too. Temescal and Rockridge are full of Teslas, Audis and Subarus, the ‘hood(I define it as between High St and 98th Ave for north/south and MacArthur Blvd/880 being the east/west boundaries, but 73rd-98th aves can get rough) is a different country.

The ones I see are rentals. Michael Stead, one of the major CDJR dealers in the Bay Area has plenty at their Hilltop store.

I don't know Oakland very well, I drove from Napa to right next to Lake Merritt lol. In that drive and then driving with a friend in that area a few times throughout the day I saw 3 Hornets. I just thought that was VERY interesting to see multiple in a day compared to the ONE I've ever seen on the road anywhere else ever.
 
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The slowest of the newer vehicles in my garage does 0-60 in six seconds flat, so some of us prioritize acceleration.
I notice you don't drive a CUV though.... Almost all the women I know drive a non-luxury CUV and none have prioritized aggressive looks or acceleration. Very few men I know drive a CUV, and none of them wanted anything other that AWD and a economical and reliable box to move their kids. Probably only Mazda kind attracts a CUV buyer who wants some zoom-zoom?

I notice Canada's Stellatis volume dealer has 2 available., so they must not be confident they can get rid of them? https://www.peelchryslerjeep.com/vehicles/new/?st=price,asc&view=grid&sc=new&mk=Dodge&md=Hornet PHEV
 
^^The two cars mentioned above are in "8 Ball" exterior color. ...your inner child.

And seriously, Stellantis would have to be simply a financial overseeing company, no?
Stellantis had to be a bunch of investors' money which bought a bunch of car companies.
Are they, say, hiring engineers and designers or are the engineers and designers fleeing?
 
The plug in hybrid is likely the least reliable version, and unfortunately the one they push the most.

There is an Alfa at work, it looks good but I have noticed that a dealer loaner has been in its place for a significant period at least once.
Last night I read an article that stated these vehicles were designed exclusively as a hybrid. When Stellantis selected to import this CUV into the U.S. (Dodge market), Stellantis made a revision to make available a non-hybrid version. My takeaway from the article is it might actually be a better designed vehicle as the hybrid.
 
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^^The two cars mentioned above are in "8 Ball" exterior color. ...your inner child.

And seriously, Stellantis would have to be simply a financial overseeing company, no?
Stellantis had to be a bunch of investors' money which bought a bunch of car companies.
Are they, say, hiring engineers and designers or are the engineers and designers fleeing?
Stellantis N.V. is a multinational automotive manufacturing company formed from the merger in 2021 of the Italian–American conglomerate Fiat Chrysler Automobiles (FCA) and the French PSA Group.The company headquarters are located in Hoofddorp, Netherlands.
 
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