Finally something we agree on.
New BMW X3 M40, INSANE power delivery (2024)
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Yeah their run flat tires but as far as traction it’s a form of 4 wheel drive - some kind of system that emphasizes the rear wheels, I didn’t feel anything remote to torque steer
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This isn’t an EV this is a luxury gas powered SUV.
A discussion of other brands in this size, price and luxury class which many people prefer would be interesting.
I doubt any EV comes close in size, price, convenience, performance (which includes handling BTW) and luxury.
BMW makes luxury electrics for those who want one, those people aren’t many so far but that’s a whole other section
of this forum
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We need examples of cars in these discussions
If I’m reading your message correctly we agree, it’s the whole package which BMW delivers. (Mentioned in another post to someone above)
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Yes that is impressive being an suv tipping the scale just shy of 4400 lbs and for a turbo 6. Technology just may prove that there will someday be a replacement for displacement.
The x5 with the v8 especially the m had such an acoustical experience and vocal range.
It’s a mild hybrid right?
BMW does engines very well and they are often better performers than pure numbers would suggest.
However if you think that was insane a GT500 or demon would make your head explode.
BMW does engines very well and they are often better performers than pure numbers would suggest.
However if you think that was insane a GT500 or demon would make your head explode.
My SuperCrew V6 pickup (5500lbs or so?) with just a tune can handily trounce any musclecar from the 60s on street tires, and still tow 10k+ lbs! With nothing more than an S&B intake & 5Star Tuning tune, it ran a video-verified 4.6 0-60 and 10.6 0-100 (it’s pointless trying to determine hundredths by video IMO). With 36 gallons of fuel in the tank.
Now that’s technology lol!
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Good catch. Mild is the correct word.
It’s for the stop start function of the car.
It makes an unnoticeable transition when the car is stopped for example at a traffic light when the engine shuts down and restarts.
My son explained to me, it doesn’t add performance HP (or one could argue it adds 11hp) just smooth transition from an engine that turned off at a light to one starting up again.
Other than that I haven’t read anymore on it until your question and found this in Motor Trend when it first came out in 2021 on another model I540
“BMW's 3.0-liter six-cylinder is augmented by a 48-volt starter/generator connected to a second battery providing the requisite smooth start/stop coasting function, and a small, temporary 11-horsepower boost. Other than that, the 3.0-liter twin-scroll turbo six-cylinder puts down the same 335 hp and 332 lb-ft of torque through the same eight-speed ZF-sourced transmission.”
Ah here is Motor Trend on the 2022 X3 M40
actually the times and speeds turned in are higher than I thought and what I posted because Motor Trend had better results than BMW published specs which my son told me but I didn’t use those numbers. But here they are with more than I could ever explain LOL
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-bmw-x3-m40i-first-test-review/
I find it all interesting this is a luxury SUV that performs pretty awesome. It doesn’t matter to some but I always admire the fit, finish and materials as well.
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The cars in 60s and 70s sounded pretty amazing and you felt the power or sometimes barely handle what they had. However reality was slow.
The i6 twin turbo with that 8 speed automatic is an amazing powerplant. I don’t see it getting developed any further except possibly a mild hybrid that might make acceleration instantaneous off a dead stop like an EV.
The i6 twin turbo with that 8 speed automatic is an amazing powerplant. I don’t see it getting developed any further except possibly a mild hybrid that might make acceleration instantaneous off a dead stop like an EV.
You brought EV's up, I commented about how they are so far beyond "that power" right now. That said, the X3M40 is stout even for a gasser. I looked at them and other BMW's when my Volvo was in the shop (BMW is our local Euro shop). They didn't really stand out to me from other brands except for the B/S58 and their suspensions. What DID stand out is how annoying BMW is with upcharges and missing options during COVID. Absolutely nuts.This isn’t an EV this is a luxury gas powered SUV.
A discussion of other brands in this size, price and luxury class which many people prefer would be interesting.
I doubt any EV comes close in size, price, convenience, performance (which includes handling BTW) and luxury.
BMW makes luxury electrics for those who want one, those people aren’t many so far but that’s a whole other section
Ahhh see the post right above yours. Yeah I assume it’s fully developed now
Not a lot left on the table with ICE...but we keep saying that and they keep finding more. I think it will finally end when EV's take over, if indeed that happens, but for now, every year we get better and better ICE engines.Ahhh see the post right above yours. Yeah I assume it’s fully developed now
But they aren’t “so far beyond” you haven’t mentioned one luxury SUV EV that is the same size and cost only $66,000
Sorry but generalized statements don’t help any conversation if one can’t compare what the person is saying.
An update from the link provided above,
Motor Trend
“Acceleration from 0-60 mph took 4.2 seconds, a notable improvement against our long-termer's 4.8-second time—and just 0.2-second behind the X3M Competition. The newfound power cut the quarter-mile result as well, to 12.8 seconds at 107.2 mph from 13.4 seconds at 103.7 mph.”
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My Volvo C40 was kindof a ringer for it there, for one. It cost less, too.
60 mph: 4.3 sec
100 mph: 10.8 sec
1/4-Mile: 12.9 sec @ 108 mph
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a38070876/2022-volvo-c40-recharge-drive/
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/bmw-x3-2021-suv-vs-volvo-c40-2021-coupe-suv/
That said, ICE cars will murder you on upkeep, so I feel like there should be at least $10K allowed over the gasser for a fair comparison, lol!
That said, "Luxury" cars, meh. My Volvo was one, and my Kia is way nicer, so I dunno what to tell you other than sometimes industry labels are BS. I've only looked at BMW's on the lot, not owned one, so I can't really speak to it in practice, but they do look nice, for sure! Probably lacking in features nowadays, but I like the seats and dash layouts!
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That’s an electric, a much smaller compact car with the same acceleration as a gas vehicle, it’s not in the luxury class SUV. It only carries a 2000lb tow rating. Its speed limited to 112 MPH
Nice car if you want an electric certainly not in the same luxury class and a completely different style/size
What I’m saying is we can do this all day long but we are not comparing two like vehicles
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C40 is a luxury car whether it slaps like one or not. Thems the industry labels. The X4 M40i only tows 1500# more though, for a total of 3500#. My EV6 GT will tow 2300# for a middle ground, rofl!
I found the speed limiting stupid, as well. Notice I got rid of it.
I was curious what an X3M40i cost. Mine was $72K the way I'd order it on BMW's site.
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My sons was $66,000 whatever floats ones boat
I can’t have a conversation with you obviously.
The year is 2024 the car BMW C3 M40 many links in here as the car was updated 2022 and your changing the conversation to another model x4 and posting x3 info from 2021
Tow rating 4,400 lbs
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-bmw-x3-m40i-first-test-review/
Have a good weekend.
2022 x3 M40 from Car and Driver
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They're the same car, X3/X4.
Anyway, nice SUV, like I've always said, if I were forced to go back into a gasser, it would be an X3 or X4 M Comp with a tune.
