New Audi Recall Issued for valve cover; May 7th, 2025

[rstcso]

- Quest for Finding "The Best" Oil May No Longer Be Relevant

I just got a notice saying a new recall has been issued for my car, a 2022 Audi Q5 2.0L, due to cylinder head cover leaking oil. As of now, there is no fix.

All my concerns of which oil is "best" may now be irrelevant if most ends up on the outside of the engine and garage floor.

 

[fantastic]

Isn't that nice.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

I just got a notice saying a new recall has been issued for my car, a 2022 Audi Q5 2.0L, due to cylinder head cover leaking oil. As of now, there is no fix.

All my concerns of which oil is "best" may now be irrelevant if most ends up on the outside of the engine and garage floor.

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Seems like the bolts were under torqued at the factory.

 

[dnewton3]

What? You mean a 40 grade won't solve this problem? I thought thicker was always the answer ...
(he said with a hybrid note of feigned shock and smattering of sarcasm)

 

[rstcso]

What? You mean a 40 grade won't solve this problem? I thought thicker was always the answer ...
(he said with a hybrid note of feigned shock and smattering of sarcasm)

Darn good thing Amsoil makes a 10W60! If that doesn't work, I guess I'll have to pump in some gear lube.

 

[rstcso]

Audi calls it a cylinder head cover and not a valve cover due to the camshaft bearings being part of the assembly#14, best I can tell from these pictures. Second picture shows camshaft installation, then the cover.

 

[Analog-1]

Isn't that nice.

Junk..

 

[Exhaustgases]

Maybe the wrong type of sealer strikes again? Too small diameter of bolts for the job, especially threading into aluminum?
In all the recalls of the now days, there are so many problems that can and do add up. Then it isn't always just one issue that is the cause of the problem.

 

[Skippy722]

Maybe the wrong type of sealer strikes again? Too small diameter of bolts for the job, especially threading into aluminum?
In all the recalls of the now days, there are so many problems that can and do add up. Then it isn't always just one issue that is the cause of the problem.

It says the fasteners may have been improperly tightened.

 

[rstcso]

It says the fasteners may have been improperly tightened.

And what else at this point? Why car was part of the connecting rod bearing failure recall shortly after we bought it, but of course, the dealership (allegedly) performed the prescribed test and all was well (allegedly). This is strike two.

A few months ago, I had decided to trade it in on something like a Honda Pilot, or better yet for just my wife and I, the Honda Passport. We don't owe anything on it, so decided even with several thousand in repairs going forward, the repairs would still cost less than the difference between the Audi's current value and a new car. That's why I put new tires on it, even though the OEM Continentals still had 5/32 tread left. It's also what led me to look for an oil which would help make the engine last as long as possible.

I'm getting too old for this poop!

 

[Skippy722]

And what else at this point? Why car was part of the connecting rod bearing failure recall shortly after we bought it, but of course, the dealership (allegedly) performed the prescribed test and all was well (allegedly). This is strike two.

A few months ago, I had decided to trade it in on something like a Honda Pilot, or better yet for just my wife and I, the Honda Passport. We don't owe anything on it, so decided even with several thousand in repairs going forward, the repairs would still cost less than the difference between the Audi's current value and a new car. That's why I put new tires on it, even though the OEM Continentals still had 5/32 tread left. It's also what led me to look for an oil which would help make the engine last as long as possible.

I'm getting too old for this poop!

I feel your pain…. My 2011 Durango was a nightmare of recalls/failures. But I replaced that with a 2016 Chrysler 300 because I don’t learn. Though the 300 was flawless for the time I owned it but I found myself needing a truck more and more. So I replaced it with my Ram.

Anyway… I’m a firm believer in not owning a vehicle I don’t trust as my primary mode of transportation. I do like the look of the new Passport

 

[Exhaustgases]

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[Exhaustgases]

It says the fasteners may have been improperly tightened.

Bolts not tight. A certain ford v6 has that same problem with the cam cap bolts, and the reason is they are too small and just pull out if my memory is correct. So yeah the bolts may not be tight.

 

[rstcso]

I feel your pain…. My 2011 Durango was a nightmare of recalls/failures. But I replaced that with a 2016 Chrysler 300 because I don’t learn. Though the 300 was flawless for the time I owned it but I found myself needing a truck more and more. So I replaced it with my Ram.

Anyway… I’m a firm believer in not owning a vehicle I don’t trust as my primary mode of transportation. I do like the look of the new Passport

I had a 2020 Ram 1500 Lone Star edition... until a hail storm in September 2023 totaled it. We bought the Ram the last day of March 2020 as businesses were shutting down due to Covid. I knew the dealer's lot was full, called them up with a stock number and what I was willing to pay that day. They basically laughed me off, so I thanked them and hung up. They called back two hours later asking "No, really? What would you pay?" I told them the same thing as earlier and they said they couldn't do that, so I thanked them and hung up. An hour later, their "sales manager" called and literally said "What do I have to do to get you into this truck today?" I gave him my price, he said he couldn't do it, so I thanked him and hung up. Less than an hour later, he called back and said he'd do it. All the paperwork was done online except for two signatures at the dealership. I picked up the truck that day. Sticker was $47,500 and I paid $36,000.

Toward the end of 2021, our daughter living in Madison, WI was pregnant with baby #2 and needed a more reliable car. By then, used cars were hard to come by and expensive. My wife was driving a 2018 Honda CR-V with about 40.000 miles, so we offered it to our daughter and bought the 2022 Audi Q5, having to wait six weeks for it to be built and shipped. We picked it up on Dec 29, 2021.

We had driven the Honda and Ram to Wisconsin. Total round trip is 2,400 miles plus any side trips. By the time the hail totaled my truck, it only had 8,500 miles on it, including the trip to Wisconsin. We decided that since we both work from home and the truck had barely been driven, we weren't going to replace it, so the Audi is our singular vehicle. We had Audi install a hitch and wiring (over $3k), and bought a ten foot aluminum trailer. It comes in handy when I need to run to Home Depot or Lowe's for wood or other supplies. The car is rated to tow 4,400lbs and the trailer is rated 2,000lbs and weighs 300lbs empty.

I could tell you about being rear-ended with the first trailer attached on my way home from buying it, with the trailer being totaled because the aluminum was bent, etc., but it's just more of my nightmare. I did buy another trailer and is used as described above.

Last week I scheduled regular interval service this coming Tuesday. I'll call on Monday to see what they're doing about this latest recall. Probably nothing, yet.

After service is completed, I'll be shopping for a new car, probably the Passport. I like that it's a naturally aspirated V6 and now uses the same engine/tranny combo used the past couple of years of the Pilot. I'm aware there was a main engine bearing problem with the previous iteration of the V6. My wife liked the CR-V and Hondas in general. Our German Shepard Dog had more headroom in the back of the CR-V than the Audi, so I think he'd appreciate the huge cargo space of a Passport.

 

[rstcso]

Bolts not tight. A certain ford v6 has that same problem with the cam cap bolts, and the reason is they are too small and just pull out if my memory is correct. So yeah the bolts may not be tight.

Should be a simple fix. right? A quick twist of a torque wrench and all is well in the world.

 

[rstcso]

Offhand, does anyone happen to know what viscosity oil is used in the Honda V6 engine in a Passport?

Better yet... What is "the best" oil for a Honda V6 engine used in a 2026 Passport?

 

[raaizin]

And what else at this point? Why car was part of the connecting rod bearing failure recall shortly after we bought it, but of course, the dealership (allegedly) performed the prescribed test and all was well (allegedly). This is strike two.

A few months ago, I had decided to trade it in on something like a Honda Pilot, or better yet for just my wife and I, the Honda Passport. We don't owe anything on it, so decided even with several thousand in repairs going forward, the repairs would still cost less than the difference between the Audi's current value and a new car. That's why I put new tires on it, even though the OEM Continentals still had 5/32 tread left. It's also what led me to look for an oil which would help make the engine last as long as possible.

I'm getting too old for this poop!

While disappointing all manufacturers have recalls . Look at recent engine issues at GM and even legendary Toyota. That is what a warranty is for.

 

[rstcso]

While disappointing all manufacturers have recalls . Look at recent engine issues at GM and even legendary Toyota. That is what a warranty is for.

Very true.

Before this latest recall, I "battled" whether to buy something new or keep this one for as long as possible. Deciding to keep it, I bought a 3 years subscription to All Data DIY. I got tired of looking for torque values of different things on the internet and getting conflicting information. I know, that comes as quite a shock. However, there are pages and pages of TSBs on my car covering problems with the engine, transmission, "Quattro" drive, water intrusion due to incorrect installation of the sunroof drain, the list goes on and on. Except for the recalls, unless the car is still in warranty, none are covered by the manufacturer. All TSBs say "informational only" when out of warranty. That means the cash will be coming out of my pocket after a few more months when my warranty expires. No doubt if I had access to the same level of information on the Passport, it'd scare the poop out of me.

Audi labor rates at my dealership was $289/hr as of last year. I found a highly rated independent shop and have talked to the owner. He mainly does Mercedes, but they also work on Audis. His rate is $169/hr. I think I had a reasonable expectation of what repair costs might be if I chose to keep the car. Based on all the normal-ish things to keep it running (timing chains, water pump, coolant leaks...), I expected to pay about $13,000 in repairs over the next 8-10 years. A replacement engine will blow that estimate out of the water.

It's much easier to find independent shops specializing in Honda vehicles and having much lower labor rates. In addition, buying new will reset the warranty clock for 3 years/36,000 miles B-to-B and 5 years/60,000 miles power train.

 

[TiGeo]

Is your cam cradle leaking? Looks like the one bit in your post says there is a fix so what's the drama?

 

[Skippy722]

Very true.

Before this latest recall, I "battled" whether to buy something new or keep this one for as long as possible. Deciding to keep it, I bought a 3 years subscription to All Data DIY. I got tired of looking for torque values of different things on the internet and getting conflicting information. I know, that comes as quite a shock. However, there are pages and pages of TSBs on my car covering problems with the engine, transmission, "Quattro" drive, water intrusion due to incorrect installation of the sunroof drain, the list goes on and on. Except for the recalls, unless the car is still in warranty, none are covered by the manufacturer. All TSBs say "informational only" when out of warranty. That means the cash will be coming out of my pocket after a few more months when my warranty expires. No doubt if I had access to the same level of information on the Passport, it'd scare the poop out of me.

Audi labor rates at my dealership was $289/hr as of last year. I found a highly rated independent shop and have talked to the owner. He mainly does Mercedes, but they also work on Audis. His rate is $169/hr. I think I had a reasonable expectation of what repair costs might be if I chose to keep the car. Based on all the normal-ish things to keep it running (timing chains, water pump, coolant leaks...), I expected to pay about $13,000 in repairs over the next 8-10 years. A replacement engine will blow that estimate out of the water.

It's much easier to find independent shops specializing in Honda vehicles and having much lower labor rates. In addition, buying new will reset the warranty clock for 3 years/36,000 miles B-to-B and 5 years/60,000 miles power train.

TSB’s are more of a “common problem” type of thing. My truck shows 27 recalls and 1,079 TSB’s. My truck has had 1 actual recall (wiper arms may not have been torqued properly and could fly off in use) and I haven’t noticed anything that would fall under any of the TSB’s I did read.

I’m telling you these things look sharp, my neighbor got a blue one and it looks great