New Amsoil EaO Filters are made in Mexico!

[Mike_dup1]

There are many products NOT produced in the US anymore, we've chased everyone out with all the laws and regulations. The AC Delco filter for my Cadillac is made in Mexico, the Fram model is made in the far east.

Many of your are buying foreign stuff everytime you go the Walmart. This summer a friend was looking for a A/C for home. He looked at Walmart and they had 100 in stock but made in China. So he goes around looking and cannot find one made in USA, so later that day he goes back to Walmart to buy thiers (ove $100 cheaper than any he found) and they were completely sold out. Sold 100 of them in less that 8 hrs. The PC you are using is more than likely made overseas.

btw-The state of Michigan buys a lot of Dodge trucks (best fleet deals of all). Every 4x4 Dodge seems to be made in Mexico (at least the 1/2 and 3/4 ton gas). I looked on a dealer lots up here in Northern Michigan, every 4x4 gas was made in Mexico and they had over 50 of them. It seems price will make people ignore that fact as this Dudge dealer has the highest volume of most in the Zone (Big Valley Ford-Dudge).

btw-The Ea filters are fying out the door. The EaO52 (Duramax) and EaO88 (Ford 6.0L) are on backorder. ****** in at the mercy of the filter mfg's, they do not have the mfg facilties to make them so they have partnered with several different mfgs, Wix amoung them.

It seems someone here things ****** is a dirty word.

[ December 04, 2005, 10:11 AM: Message edited by: Mike ]

 

[Filter guy]

Mike..

Maybe if the companies would up their orders the plants would run them for them.

Makes no difference to a filter manufacturing facility if someone orders 1,000 or 5,000 or 10,000 or 50,000.

It does however make a difference to the company doing the ordering as they have to pay for them and inventory them.

I would suspect a company like A msoil wouldn't order in high volumes. I also doubt the manufacturing plant has backorder their product.

But filter manufacturers do have to schedule production and they normally don't stop production to switch to a certain brand just because a Company ran out and didn't anticipate their usage correctly. As the manufacturer is limited to the specific bill of material requirements. So their purchasing department has to order in the correct media grade for the specific situation, other compenents, etc..in order for production to even be able to run the part number.

It can take 2-4 weeks or longer to run a specific part number again. The hangup may be the availability of the new nano-technology media A msoil touts..

 

[Dick in Falls Church]

Looked at about 7 different EaO filters. Only two had printing that read "Made in Mexico". The others had only batch numbers on them, some in the same almost invisible ink, one in a light blue.

Backorders for new products have not been unusual for AMSOIL over the past 20 years. They predict the initial orders as well as they can, then cross their fingers. The initial orders normally deplete the warehouse stocks, and often the company stocks, in short order. Things normally settle after a few weeks, and then backorders are normally for only a couple days until a truck arrives at the product center.

As one of the AMSOIL guys said Saturday--pretty hard to predict what you will need to have on hand when someone drops in an order for $65,000 worth.

A few years ago, when a branch of the Canadian govt ordered a lot of two cycle oil, the entire stock was depleted and we had backorders for a few weeks.

 

[Dark Jedi]

you know to say you only buy american is silly. you ever stop to think all the sub components in you made in america item just might come from overseas. I am sorry to say mexico has poor quality is stupid. just something proud americans spread around telling lies. the reason why companies are moving to mexico isnt only because cheap labor but they dont have to deal with union that want more money and less hours and strike when they dont get their way. sorry to say unions are no longer needed. they out lived their usefulness. they are just money hungry people that prey on their members for money. must say about the best legal racket out there. to do nothing and get a paycheck just by telling peopele to strike and their families go hungry while the leaders sit in their million dollars homes eating lobster and laughing at the suckers picketing in the cold. sorry to say the american people are about the most lazy country in the world. also if american made was such great quality then why do I see alot of foriegn vehicles on the road

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Nothing silly Red Jedi!

Plenty of Mexican crap gets produced every day. Never said everything there is crap.

We do have a nation here that needs to continue to export. If we import everything, we will eventually become another Mexico prior to the Mexican Trade Agreement.

Surely you don't want to see the USA become a third-world nation. Our dollar is falling rapidly & the world economy is dictating it. Increased spending to aid foreign nations nakes them richer & us poorer. Unions gave birth to the middle class. That's a fact! As the growth of unions decrease, so does our middle class society. Ever since Jimmy Hoffa & John C. Lodge, wages of non-union houses had to compete with union houses. Even though your daddy wasn't in a union, he made a good wage because of unions nearby.

Take the unions away??.... watch our middle class crumble! Take our exports away?.... watch folks once again jump out of tall building windows on Wall St.

 

[Fastride95]

The U.S. of A has rapidly been moving towards a service oriented economy over the last couple of decades. Our export is dismal, the average education level compared to even some 3rd world countries is inferior and each successive generation has become more show than glow.. or something along those lines. We're in serious trouble when it comes to finding competent engineers for various technical fields that will accept a labor rate that an equivalent engineer + support team is willing to accept overseas.

Fair? No, but that is reality. Do you like that Dell computer for 399.00 that comes with the 17" flat panel display? It would never happen if their entire operation was based on US soil.

I have nothing against the US. I better not as I spent 10 yrs in military service defending her and her allies. No denying the truth though. American products are not really any better than many made in what most americans consider to be 3rd world countries.

Everything from Intel processors to duct tape is made overseas now. Ironically, Japan probably makes more cars here than GM, Ford, or DMC.

A big part of it is due to the fact that we want products at the lowest price while still maintaining a high average income and quality of life. GM is laying off workers by the thousands because they can't afford to pay someone 25 bucks an hour to install spark plugs anymore. The japanese auto makers are pulling it off but they charge a premium for their autos and we're willing to pay.

I still buy american for large purchases when possible, well aware of the fact that half of the product's components were made somewhere else, but my car was made in Japan. Nothing american could compare at the time. Even the Ford Probe GT Turbo that I owned and raced in the early 90s was based on the Mazda MX-6 and full of overseas parts. Honestly, it's getting to the point that about the only reliable TRUE american made product I can find for my use day to day are tools. Hand tools.. and I need to double check that.

It's funny that I too work in the service industry and my work vehicle was a pure american vehicle (AFAIK). Someone backed into it moving at walking speed and dented the bumper, hood and front driver side quarter panel. The vehicle at 10 yrs old was a total loss according to the insurance company. This was a fully loaded Ford Aerostar XLT in near perfect condition.

If the same thing happened to my 10 yr old Honda it would have been repaired. It's worth 3x more than the Ford. I can't take anymore chances on being out of work because of a fender bender that totals a vehicle forcing me to buy another and take chances on it having problems due to previous owner neglect (can't afford brand new right now). My next van/truck will be a Toyota or Nissan. That's reality.

Enough rambling... sorry!

[ December 05, 2005, 09:03 AM: Message edited by: Fastride95 ]

 

[Mike_dup1]

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I would suspect a company like A msoil wouldn't order in high volumes. I also doubt the manufacturing plant has backorder their product

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A_msoil has 14 distribution centers in the US, Canada and 1 off-shore (PR) so they do pruchase in large volume. The main center is over 7 acres under 1 roof.

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Things normally settle after a few weeks, and then backorders are normally for only a couple days until a truck arrives at the product center.

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The girl told me that more were in transit and should arrive this week. I was there in Superior Sat and I know there were over 100g in products out the door and that was only 4 dj's order, not to include the other 100 or who were picking up products.

btw-A_msoil is now a full line Wix distributor (except for what the EA line covers) so the major filter mfg's must see some value in partnering with them. Donaldson, now Wix. They want to be known a the leader in automotive filtration.

[ December 05, 2005, 11:03 AM: Message edited by: Mike ]

 

[Ray H]

I believe Red Jedi was referring to your CR "advertising space" comment. CR does not accept advertising revenue nor display advertising in their magazine except for their own susbscription and supplemental publication offers.

 

[robbobster]

My Girl was made in Mexico, and she's pretty hot.

Just sayin'...

 

[Filter guy]

Mike;

"A_msoil has 14 distribution centers in the US, Canada and 1 off-shore (PR) so they do pruchase in large volume. The main center is over 7 acres under 1 roof."

Bet it's not full of filters though..

My point remains that someone at A msoil ordered specific part numbers. They ran out quickly.

Which tells me it probably wasn't because of backorders but because of the quantity purchased.

A msoil has an idea how many filters by part number they "need". As they would probably have a blanket PO with releases for X quantity. My guess is they asked to move up their next order already in the scheduling.

What may be a "big" order to them may not be to other brands like NAPA, Valvoline, Motocraft, etc..

As the new A msoil filter is a premium priced one, I think it would be safe to say the volume by part number is not as large as more "moderate" priced filters. But I could be wrong..

 

[Mike_dup1]

fyi

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AMSOIL EaO Filters by the Numbers

* We currently have 36 sku’s with our EaO Oil Filters.
* We cover 80% of the most popular requested (sold) filters in markets such as retail and performance stores.
* We previously had 26 sku’s with the SDF Filters, which are being discontinued.
* The EaO filters cover all the popular SDF filters with acceptable sales levels that met our minimum criteria.
* We will continue to offer SDF Filters while supplies last.
* If AMSOIL does not have the EaO equivalent for a particular application, we will be offering WIX filters.

WIX Filters by the Numbers

* WIX is replacing Hastings for auto/light truck applications.
* We will offer Hastings until January 1, 2006.
* AMSOIL will have approximately 700 of the most popular WIX sku’s in stock.
* We will have an additional 1,000 sku’s available via a special order program.
o Faster turnaround time than ever on special orders.
* AMSOIL will offer WIX Racing Filters
o Air filters for dirt and asphalt track
o Oil filters
o Fuel Filters
* AMSOIL will not stock or sell WIX counterparts to present EaA and EaO part numbers.
* WIX filters will not be available for sale through our Retail-on-the-Shelf Program.

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[Big O Dave]

Who in the h*ll is "Red Jedi?"