New Additive

[dropitby]

Someone sais they put this in their oil and I wondered if anyone has tryed it or know what it is another snake oil or something useful.

http://www.ixldave.com/index.htm

[ June 11, 2004, 10:33 AM: Message edited by: dropitby ]

 

[dropitby]

OK so we have a product that someone sells to make our oil better. That is what this site is about finding out if a product has a valid place in our crankcase. A product ahead of its time! IXL is: an anti-friction metal conditioner, an extreme pressure hydrocarbon compound, compatible with petroleum products, synthetic oils, freon, etc.., anti-corrosive, anti-foaming, Nonflammamble, Nonhazardous, biodegradable, fuel efficient cost effective, IXL conditions the metal, not the oil. t is not a lubricant fortifier such as graphite, moly, or TFE. It cannot build upon itself and will not change critical tolerances and will not affect oil filters.

 

[90hardbody]

Sounds like militec and mt-10. Maybe full of chlorinated hydrocarbons (turns corrosive after awhile, but superslick stuff until the engine rots apart). Give some of our chemistry majors time to chime in. Molakule?

By the way, you're not selling this stuff, are you?

 

[T-Keith]

Site needs alot of work. No real disciption of how it works, no testimonials, no examples, tests, ect. Plus it's one of those standard web page templates.

-T

 

[Dick in Falls Church]

Have been told by a fairly reliable source that it has a high percentage of chlorinated hydrocarbons.

 

[Santo Fontana]

100 a gallon, 30 a quart? No thanks.

 

[Matt_S]

I hope he's selling based on his reputation and not that web site. Holy Cow! I definitely agree with Keith on that one.

Note the pour point, +20F. Not that low at all. I wonder how thick this stuff is?

 

[dropitby]

No I'm not selling this stuff but I didn't think it was something worth putting in my car. But I do sell AMSOIL I like their products and not all the hype. dropitby (Darrell)

dropitby, suggest you read this post: Topic: Notice to All Oil Salesmen Tony

[ June 11, 2004, 07:49 PM: Message edited by: rugerman1 ]

 

[MolaKule]

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Have been told by a fairly reliable source that it has a high percentage of chlorinated hydrocarbons.

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Yea, what's up with all of these chlorinated ester and hydrocarbons being relaeased lately?

It appears two things must have happened IMHO:

1. the old Gear Lube patents must have run out.

2. there must be a lot of this stuff in inventory.

I find it interesting that no chlorinated paraffin/ester chemists have come onto this board to defend or explain these CP's.

This is NOT to say there isn't a good explanation, but we haven't heard even a mild pipsqweek from this corner of the industry.

 

[salsahh]

Off subject a little but they cannot use the words Hydro-sol on they're label thats trademark infringment to the giant hydrosol corporation that makes gold eagle and aerosol.

Question what is the real problem with chlorine??

 

[MolaKule]

http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=001947

 

[salsahh]

The chlorine myth has it ever been proven? i've seen countless tests that in long chain chlorine additives with a high TBN there was less acids produced than reglular motoroil. I don't know for sure but i believe this is a myth that some chemists made up that if water enters the system and mixes with chlorine it will make HCL or hydrochloroacid. Short chain CP's are another story that probably could be solved with this myth.

 

[salsahh]

IXL sounds alot like IXE isn't that what Lubeguard makes??

 

[mojo]

"this is a myth that some chemists made up that if water enters the system and mixes with chlorine it will make HCL "

Did you knowthat water is one of the products that are produced during combustion? It certainly admixes intimately with the oil.

 

[salsahh]

ok water mixes with the oil during combustion but does it make HCL?

 

[mojo]

That depends on the bonding energies of the chlorine-hydrocarbon linkages of the chlorinated hydrocarbon additive and whether they are susceptible to bond cleavage that would then allow for the formation of some acidic intermediates. In a combustion environment where there are a multitude of free radical precursors, there certainly is a great potential for some acidic intermediates to form.

 

[salsahh]

How about if it has a high TBN number is there still a chance for the HCL to form?