Differential/Transfer Case Additive Question

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First time poster here. Have been lurking for some time on various subjects. Now I have a question for the group... thanks in advance for your responses.
Some time ago, I acquired a couple of quarts of a gearbox additive. The additive is called GEAR-UP PLUS made by Multi-Mist Products (a division of NCH Corporation). The subheading on the bottle reads "Premium Gear and Bearing Oil Improver, H2". I have refrained from putting it into any application except for one -- a rebuilt 90degree gearbox on a 5ft rotary cutter -- high insult and low risk. Charted dosage recommendation is 1oz/pint for lighter weight gear oils (75W to 90W) and 1.5 oz/pint for heavier weight gear oils (90W and beyond). Thus far, no issues with the one application. Interesting observation: when adding to the 85W-140 gear oil prior to filling the gearbox, the consistency of the oil completely changed. It went from having the appearance of a liquid oil to that of very hot bubble gum -- sticky and somewhat stringy. I know a not very scientific description, but that is all I have. Those who gave me the two bottles lauded its performance on industrial gearboxes such as those from SEW and Dodge -- those used on belt conveyors and the like. The directions say "[n]ever mix with polyol ester- or diester based gear oils, asphaltic-type lubricants, or with "SCL" (sulfur-chlorine-lead)-type lubricants." The directions also say to never mix into automatic transmissions, tractors with common transmission and hydraulic systems, and the like. Just curious if anyone here has any experience beyond this with this additive. Specifically, wondering how this might perform in a transfer case or differential. I am about to change the transfer case and differential oil on an older (2005) Subaru replacing with the appropriate grade Schaeffer's 75W-90 and was wondering if even a small amount of this additive might positively affect longevity. Again, thanks in advance for responses.
 
I would not use it at all. Differentials fling oil forward into the front pinion bearing. Oil also oils the axle bearings, unless you have CV shafts. Some transfer cases have a small oil pump to oil areas where oil won't get splashed, so wouldn't use it there either. Maybe OK in your 90 degree gearbox but that's all.
 
I would not use it at all. Differentials fling oil forward into the front pinion bearing. Oil also oils the axle bearings, unless you have CV shafts. Some transfer cases have a small oil pump to oil areas where oil won't get splashed, so wouldn't use it there either. Maybe OK in your 90 degree gearbox but that's all.
Thank you! Very good points. The diff does have CV shafts, but the risk is much higher than an agricultural gearbox. Your wisdom is much appreciated.
 
Given the description of how it affected the lube, it sounds like this product is just a VM (viscosity modifier).

This is all I could find. Oddly, it's listed on this page, but there's no ability to click on the product or otherwise get any details about it ...
Here is the SDS ...
I'm not a chemist; someone else would have to chime in and assist with what little info we can glean from this source.
The 2,5-Bis(octyldithio)-1,3,4-thiadiazole ingredient is very common; it shows up in a LOT of SDSs on the web. So it's a broad-based additive; found in lots of products, from gear oils to gun lubes.

It probably harkens from the "thicker is always better" mindset. I disagree with that over-simplified mentality; too many things can be adversely affected by significant changes in vis relative to the OEs intended application. Whereas some amount of it is beneficial in an application, over-dosing this may have detrimental effects; more is not always better.
 
Thank you. Great to know that and a special thanks for finding the source for the product. Based upon all of the responses I am not going to risk experimenting with it.
 
Subaru differentials are pretty bullet proof and go hundreds of thousands of miles, I wouldn’t risk it.
Thank you. I agree now that I have tapped into the wisdom from this site. A prior owner had allowed different tires to be put on the vehicle front to back (now resolved with a new set). No noise as yet. I'm just going to drain and replace with the Schaeffer's. If something does fail in the future, it will be a chance to wrench and learn.
 
If the additive is thick then as Dave said it is probably a viscosity modifier or in this case a "thickener." Thicker is not necessarily better.

The thiadiazole compound is one of those multifunctional additives and functions as an antiwear/antiscuff, friction reducer, corrosion inhibitor, extreme pressure, anti-oxidant, and metal deactivator.

This compound is already found in engine oils, gear lubes, hydraulic fluids, and ATF's in a balanced formula, so I would advise against adding it.
 
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