New 2012 Focus Engine-- 160HP and 40 MPG
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I prefer economy in an economy car If I want fast I would buy a Vette, Mustang or build something. The prices on used Ferraris are reasonable! I wouldn't purchase an economy car with a high output engine.
Originally Posted By: Patman
Originally Posted By: pidster
Guess they found a happy medium between guys like each of you
I'm in the 30/250 camp myself
I can get over 30MPG on a pure highway run in my Corvette and it's making roughly 375hp. So I wouldn't be too happy with only 30/250
Since I've already got a fast car, for me I would like to have a second car that gets incredible MPG and it doesn't need to be powerful. So I'd be happy with an engine that makes only 100hp but gets 50 MPG highway.
Considering the price of gas over the last 5 years in North America, I'm really shocked that the car makers haven't come out with a lot of super high MPG cars. The technology is certainly there to do it! And Europe has a lot of small light cars with tiny engines in them, why not bring them over here? (like the VW Polo for instance, there is supposedly a version of that which gets almost 90 MPG!)
Once you drive the Focus with the 160 hp engine add the required for the type of car [censored] box on the exhaust,,,the Vette will be history.
Originally Posted By: pidster
Guess they found a happy medium between guys like each of you
I can get over 30MPG on a pure highway run in my Corvette and it's making roughly 375hp. So I wouldn't be too happy with only 30/250
Since I've already got a fast car, for me I would like to have a second car that gets incredible MPG and it doesn't need to be powerful. So I'd be happy with an engine that makes only 100hp but gets 50 MPG highway.
Considering the price of gas over the last 5 years in North America, I'm really shocked that the car makers haven't come out with a lot of super high MPG cars. The technology is certainly there to do it! And Europe has a lot of small light cars with tiny engines in them, why not bring them over here? (like the VW Polo for instance, there is supposedly a version of that which gets almost 90 MPG!)
Once you drive the Focus with the 160 hp engine add the required for the type of car [censored] box on the exhaust,,,the Vette will be history.
Originally Posted By: ItsuMitsubishi
If you guys were in Europe or Japan, you'd have had this engine available to buy for 2 years now
... with autonomous idle engine stop and motorless restart
Plus the diesel options that get 70+ MPG
If you guys were in Europe or Japan, you'd have had this engine available to buy for 2 years now
Plus the diesel options that get 70+ MPG
70+ mpg??? no way.......
The VW Polo Blue Motion diesel is rated at what??? 70?
Its a laugh....... about 15% of my collegues at my company here in Holland have one
as a lease car, they average just over 5 liters for 100 km's.
Thats not even 50mpg!!!
On top of it its very slow, hence only 55kw on the small 1.2 threecylinder diesel
U have to be wot for atleist 20 seconds to merge onto highways and it drives very notchy!
Come on i’m totally disappointed in that 1.2diesel
Should have called it Slow Motion instead of Blue Motion!!!
The VW Polo Blue Motion diesel is rated at what??? 70?
Its a laugh....... about 15% of my collegues at my company here in Holland have one
as a lease car, they average just over 5 liters for 100 km's.
Thats not even 50mpg!!!
On top of it its very slow, hence only 55kw on the small 1.2 threecylinder diesel
U have to be wot for atleist 20 seconds to merge onto highways and it drives very notchy!
Come on i’m totally disappointed in that 1.2diesel
Should have called it Slow Motion instead of Blue Motion!!!
Originally Posted By: Dutchneon
70+ mpg??? no way.......
The VW Polo Blue Motion diesel is rated at what??? 70?
Its a laugh....... about 15% of my collegues at my company here in Holland have one
as a lease car, they average just over 5 liters for 100 km's.
Thats not even 50mpg!!!
On top of it its very slow, hence only 55kw on the small 1.2 threecylinder diesel
U have to be wot for atleist 20 seconds to merge onto highways and it drives very notchy!
Come on i’m totally disappointed in that 1.2diesel
Should have called it Slow Motion instead of Blue Motion!!!
Not that top gear is scientific really, but they drove from Basil Switzerland to Blackpool UK in 3 cars on one tank. Hammond drove a VW Polo Bluemotion, and averaged 80mpg.
70+ mpg??? no way.......
The VW Polo Blue Motion diesel is rated at what??? 70?
Its a laugh....... about 15% of my collegues at my company here in Holland have one
as a lease car, they average just over 5 liters for 100 km's.
Thats not even 50mpg!!!
On top of it its very slow, hence only 55kw on the small 1.2 threecylinder diesel
U have to be wot for atleist 20 seconds to merge onto highways and it drives very notchy!
Come on i’m totally disappointed in that 1.2diesel
Should have called it Slow Motion instead of Blue Motion!!!
Not that top gear is scientific really, but they drove from Basil Switzerland to Blackpool UK in 3 cars on one tank. Hammond drove a VW Polo Bluemotion, and averaged 80mpg.
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
BTW, those transmissions upshift well, but downshift like poo.
That is half of the shifting experience down the toilet!
Are you referring to DSG?
Why all this talk of the DSG transmission in a Ford thread, anyway?
My buddy's girlfriend has a Fiesta. He was telling me how bad the automatic is - how it's slushy and feels like it's slipping during shifts - and I mentioned that it's a dual-clutch unit. He didn't believe me at first, but after another drive he noticed that it does feel a little different, but still far worse than a good conventional automatic. No control over the shifts, either.
The one in the Focus may be better though. Just like with any other transmission design, there are some good ones and some bad ones.
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
BTW, those transmissions upshift well, but downshift like poo.
That is half of the shifting experience down the toilet!
Are you referring to DSG?
Why all this talk of the DSG transmission in a Ford thread, anyway?
My buddy's girlfriend has a Fiesta. He was telling me how bad the automatic is - how it's slushy and feels like it's slipping during shifts - and I mentioned that it's a dual-clutch unit. He didn't believe me at first, but after another drive he noticed that it does feel a little different, but still far worse than a good conventional automatic. No control over the shifts, either.
The one in the Focus may be better though. Just like with any other transmission design, there are some good ones and some bad ones.
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Originally Posted By: Nick R
Originally Posted By: Dutchneon
70+ mpg??? no way.......
The VW Polo Blue Motion diesel is rated at what??? 70?
Its a laugh....... about 15% of my collegues at my company here in Holland have one
as a lease car, they average just over 5 liters for 100 km's.
Thats not even 50mpg!!!
On top of it its very slow, hence only 55kw on the small 1.2 threecylinder diesel
U have to be wot for atleist 20 seconds to merge onto highways and it drives very notchy!
Come on i’m totally disappointed in that 1.2diesel
Should have called it Slow Motion instead of Blue Motion!!!
Not that top gear is scientific really, but they drove from Basil Switzerland to Blackpool UK in 3 cars on one tank. Hammond drove a VW Polo Bluemotion, and averaged 80mpg.
I'm with u on that.. big fan of the show and seen that episode, but for 1, why take the polo if the Jag can do it........ 2; noone will drive like that for even half a tank...... come on 55-60mph is unrealistic. Stop and go will bring the average down alot also..... On top of that u are basicly almost WOT all the time driving on europeon highways doing 120-140 km/h the thing tops out at 160 after half an hour of patiently falling asleep.... that car is for city driving
Originally Posted By: Dutchneon
70+ mpg??? no way.......
The VW Polo Blue Motion diesel is rated at what??? 70?
Its a laugh....... about 15% of my collegues at my company here in Holland have one
as a lease car, they average just over 5 liters for 100 km's.
Thats not even 50mpg!!!
On top of it its very slow, hence only 55kw on the small 1.2 threecylinder diesel
U have to be wot for atleist 20 seconds to merge onto highways and it drives very notchy!
Come on i’m totally disappointed in that 1.2diesel
Should have called it Slow Motion instead of Blue Motion!!!
Not that top gear is scientific really, but they drove from Basil Switzerland to Blackpool UK in 3 cars on one tank. Hammond drove a VW Polo Bluemotion, and averaged 80mpg.
I'm with u on that.. big fan of the show and seen that episode, but for 1, why take the polo if the Jag can do it........ 2; noone will drive like that for even half a tank...... come on 55-60mph is unrealistic. Stop and go will bring the average down alot also..... On top of that u are basicly almost WOT all the time driving on europeon highways doing 120-140 km/h the thing tops out at 160 after half an hour of patiently falling asleep.... that car is for city driving
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Originally Posted By: Steve S
I prefer economy in an economy car If I want fast I would buy a Vette, Mustang or build something. The prices on used Ferraris are reasonable! I wouldn't purchase an economy car with a high output engine.
The price of a used Ferrari might not be too bad, but the price of keeping it alive is super expensive from what my co-workers have told me.
I prefer economy in an economy car If I want fast I would buy a Vette, Mustang or build something. The prices on used Ferraris are reasonable! I wouldn't purchase an economy car with a high output engine.
The price of a used Ferrari might not be too bad, but the price of keeping it alive is super expensive from what my co-workers have told me.
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Originally Posted By: Steve S
I prefer economy in an economy car If I want fast I would buy a Vette, Mustang or build something. The prices on used Ferraris are reasonable! I wouldn't purchase an economy car with a high output engine.
Well said. And like it or not, most of the people who need economy, need economy. Not some feeling of sportiness with higher lifecycle cost.
I prefer economy in an economy car If I want fast I would buy a Vette, Mustang or build something. The prices on used Ferraris are reasonable! I wouldn't purchase an economy car with a high output engine.
Well said. And like it or not, most of the people who need economy, need economy. Not some feeling of sportiness with higher lifecycle cost.
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