NEOL.world - anyone tried it yet? Copper to replace ZDDP

[ABOVE Oils]

I get the science behind hydrogen embrittlement but wondering if anyone is using NEOL.world oils yet. It's another method to deal with issues with Fe. Some are solved with cryo treating, they are using copper to block as much hydrogen from getting in the lattice. They posted patents in other countries but not in the USA. Maybe they are not here because of the EPA rules about copper. It is interesting reading the patent and watching Lubrication explained explainer videos and test. Curious what base oil they are using and how they are holding up. Curious how the VO analysis would show the Copper salts or Cu before you start because many would fear that showing up after.

 

[fantastic]

Never heard of this brand. Would definitely want to do a VOA first if using a product like that.

 

[Hohn]

I saw that episode of Lubrication Explained. It's quite interesting, copper as an additive.

I'll just stay tuned on this one.

 

[OVERKILL]

I get the science behind hydrogen embrittlement but wondering if anyone is using NEOL.world oils yet. It's another method to deal with issues with Fe. Some are solved with cryo treating, they are using copper to block as much hydrogen from getting in the lattice. They posted patents in other countries but not in the USA. Maybe they are not here because of the EPA rules about copper. It is interesting reading the patent and watching Lubrication explained explainer videos and test. Curious what base oil they are using and how they are holding up. Curious how the VO analysis would show the Copper salts or Cu before you start because many would fear that showing up after.

Where are we getting the idea that hydrogen embrittlement is an issue in passenger cars and trucks? I mean, it's an issue for CANDU pressure tubes, exposed to neutron flux, but I've not heard it expressed as an issue of significance in automotive engines, where mechanical wear and ring land contamination seem to drive the product lifecycle.

 

[MolaKule]

Copper additive chemistrys are nothing new as RLI used them years ago in their bio-oil formulations.

Where is the data that shows that copper chemistry mitigates hydrogen embrittlement in Fe alloys?

I am not sure if this post was meant to be a discussion of copper additive chemistry or a promotion for NEOL. It should not be the latter.