need some advice

[Dakota1820]

ok so as many of you know i was offered a job at Domino's well i did 2 of the 3 days of orientation and then i found another better job. so i talked to the manger of domino's and explained to him. i found another job and cannot pass it up but would still like to work at Domino's. I told him i am willing to work as much as possible as long as its around my school and other work schedule. which shouldn't have been to hard to do since i was only going to get 10-20 hrs a week at domino's. He wouldn't work with me at all or give me any straight answers or anything. so eventually i just told him i am sorry but i am pursuing other options and thanked him for his time.

well today i sent him a text message because he hates phone calls apparently, and said how do i go about getting my check for orientation? do i pick it up are you going to mail it ? ect ect. he calls me but i had my phone on silent because i was on my way to work. well it was in the center console and i saw the missed call arrow on the screen. so i listen to his voice mail and he is calling me a pu*** because i didn't answer the phone and if i want my money i need to call him back. so i call him back and told him i didn't like his message and i am in no way afraid of him and that he told me he preferred texting. well then he proceeds to tell me i may not be betting paid and he needs to do some "paper work" and he will let me know!! didn't give me any idea when he would know or anything.

now besides being angrier than [censored] and wanting to choke the living fecal matter out of him. (yes i realize not the best option) i dont really know the best course of action. some of the smartest people i talk to are on here so i am hoping you guys have some knowledge on what i can do. i am fed up with this situation. bad thing is this guy used to be my neighbor. he was always nice usually dumb as heck but nice. i mean i did the intake gasket on his girlfriends Bonneville because he asked me to help him so i did and now he returns the favor like this. i get sick of helping people and then getting screwed over. i am sure you guys have all been there done that. thanks guys sorry the post is long. i wanted to be relatively detailed. i appreciate all the help.

 

[cmorr]

He has no choice, he must pay you

If needed contact your States Labor Relations Dept

Here is a link for Missouri

http://www.labor.mo.gov/

 

[MarkStock]

Start contacting, in a polite and factual way, his superiors in Dominos. Just work your way up until you make him famous.

 

[LeakySeals]

He hires you, you go to orientation and quit before actually working one hour. Your texting asking him to mail a check and get paid. Yeah, I can see how he's upset. He feels like he got scammed. You agreed to the terms, then tried to change them around another job. What manager/owner would be happy with being second to somebody else? Your lucky if you do get paid for orientation. Go deal with him if you want to get paid for never working, its the least you can do. Don't hide behind your phone. You were hired, so you have to sign paperwork on departure. He's running a large company franchise, its his business. Has nothing to do with favors in the neighborhood. Two different things, don't confuse them.

 

[matrass]

Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
He hires you, you go to orientation and quit before actually working one hour. Your texting asking him to mail a check and get paid. Yeah, I can see how he's upset. He feels like he got scammed. You agreed to the terms, then tried to change them around another job. What manager/owner would be happy with being second to somebody else? Your lucky if you do get paid for orientation. Go deal with him if you want to get paid for never working, its the least you can do. Don't hide behind your phone. You were hired, so you have to sign paperwork on departure. He's running a large company franchise, its his business. Has nothing to do with favors in the neighborhood. Two different things, don't confuse them.



I would agree with this. you need to see things from the other side of the fence. you go through training , then take another job and text him about your paycheck. I think texting is really not a good idea when it involves work, unless your boss sends you one first. I always ask my boss to call as I would rather talk to a live human being.

 

[JC1]

That manager is showing his true colors! Do what you can to get your money and be glad that you don't work for him.

Good luck in your better job!

 

[Pop_Rivit]

Both you and the manager are acting like immature little children, and you are equally culpable for the current situation.

Stop hiding behind text messages, stop hiding behind phone calls. Walk into the store (during off-peak times) and speak to him face to face. Don't get mad, don't start name calling, and certainly don't choke anything out of him (your continued propensity for physical violence speaks volumes about your character).

If he refuses to pay you or give you the information you seek, walk out graciously (like an adult, not a temper tantrum throwing child), and if you feel it's really worth getting paid, file a complaint with the appropriate authority if you feel it's worth your time. In reality you're only looking at what-less than $100 for a couple orientation days? Your options are fairly limited.

Normally, employees who quit or are terminated receive their final paycheck during the next normal payroll cycle.

 

[gfh77665]

Dominoes, like other restaurants and other business of this sort have tremendous amounts of employee turnover. These businesses don't offer much job security, or wages, or benefits, so naturally employees often "come and go". Your leaving for a better job is just part of the game, and that is fair to both sides. With that in mind, they DEFINITELY owe you for whatever hours(s) you were there.

Politely call or email the manager first, but don't offer any explanations or apologies to him. Simply politely state you are owed for whatever time you were there, and you expect payment for your time. If he balks, go up the ladder, just stay business like about it. You WILL get paid, but if they give you a hassle, the labor board is the next step. This is not so much about money, but principle at this point. Don't give in.

 

[Donald]

I agree you should go in off-peak and speak in person. Ask if there are any job exit forms you need to fill in to get your final paycheck. Don't get mad or yell. The person who stays in control has the upper hand. This will be good experience for you in life with respect to dealing with PIA bosses you will come across over time.

 

[bullwinkle]

Honestly, if Kia passed over a site S of Wapak, as Hyundai passed over a site here E of me (Batavia)-I would have bet that "right to work" state regs had more than a little to do with it. To the OP, it sounds like your Domino's friend is acting a little cranky with regards to your paycheck-first he says he prefers texts, then he's mad at you because you didn't hear your phone, AND you offered to work for him part-time when you could, and he wouldn't even give you an answer? Sounds like a major jerk to me-you're probably better off not being there, and I would bump your issue upstairs to corp or MO labor for sure.

 

[Dakota1820]

Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Both you and the manager are acting like immature little children, and you are equally culpable for the current situation.

Stop hiding behind text messages, stop hiding behind phone calls. Walk into the store (during off-peak times) and speak to him face to face. Don't get mad, don't start name calling, and certainly don't choke anything out of him (your continued propensity for physical violence speaks volumes about your character).

If he refuses to pay you or give you the information you seek, walk out graciously (like an adult, not a temper tantrum throwing child), and if you feel it's really worth getting paid, file a complaint with the appropriate authority if you feel it's worth your time. In reality you're only looking at what-less than $100 for a couple orientation days? Your options are fairly limited.

Normally, employees who quit or are terminated receive their final paycheck during the next normal payroll cycle.




uhhh poprivet he asked me that if i need anything to text him and not call that's why i did it. i hate texting i was just honoring his wishes.

 

[Dakota1820]

Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
He hires you, you go to orientation and quit before actually working one hour. Your texting asking him to mail a check and get paid. Yeah, I can see how he's upset. He feels like he got scammed. You agreed to the terms, then tried to change them around another job. What manager/owner would be happy with being second to somebody else? Your lucky if you do get paid for orientation. Go deal with him if you want to get paid for never working, its the least you can do. Don't hide behind your phone. You were hired, so you have to sign paperwork on departure. He's running a large company franchise, its his business. Has nothing to do with favors in the neighborhood. Two different things, don't confuse them.



you are missing something. i clearly said i found another job but do want to work for Domiono's as well. i told him this before he told me what my schedule would be or anything. when i asked several times for an idea of what they would need. like how many hours i would get or anything. he wouldn't even try to listen. Heck i asked him on the day he did the interviewing and hiring how much i was making and he didn't want to tell me. it was kind of a weird deal all around. believe me i wanted to work there. i was committed to working there until he wouldn't tell me my wage or my hours and he asked me to give him my availability and i did the following day and he looks at it and say well you cant be here till 11 because of school well if i schedule you earlier than that you better be here. i asked well what about my availability then why did i even make it. and he says because that way if my boss asks i have a copy. he made it next to impossible to work their. i tried every avenue possible to do both but he made it extremely hard. he wouldn't work with me at all or even talk to me. he worked with the other employees. one is a cop and he works around his schedule just fine. he was all nice when he hired me and then all the sudden was just rude and absolutely no help so i eventually just said thanks for the time but i am going to just take the other job.

my new jobs manager was very willing to accommodate me working at Domino's . all the domino's manager said was if you are going to work another job i cant help you. so he left me with no choice. he put me in a box i had to make a decision and because of how he acted i made a decision to not work there.

 

[Dakota1820]

also he isn't the store owner he is just the manager. and poprivet again you are not going to tell me there hasn't been a time in your life when you wanted to choke someone. of course you wouldn't do it because you are more mature than that. but you get my point. yea i would like to choke him for being an absolute idiot but i clearly realize that would not work. so i have to handle it in an adult way. you take things out of context. being angry at someone does not make me a bad person. yes actually causing some physical harm does make me a guy of questionable integrity but just wishing i could doesn't make me a bad guy. everyone has felt like that before.
besides that when i first came in for an interview i told him i was still looking for another job and he said if you find anything better there is no hard feelings. so i find something better and now he is butt hurt? doesn't make to much sense.

The only reason i have not gone up there is because when i told him on the phone i would like to come up there after i get off work and have a talk with him and the store owner he said if i come there that he will call the police. i dont need all of that drama.

 

[Dakota1820]

Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
Honestly, if Kia passed over a site S of Wapak, as Hyundai passed over a site here E of me (Batavia)-I would have bet that "right to work" state regs had more than a little to do with it. To the OP, it sounds like your Domino's friend is acting a little cranky with regards to your paycheck-first he says he prefers texts, then he's mad at you because you didn't hear your phone, AND you offered to work for him part-time when you could, and he wouldn't even give you an answer? Sounds like a major jerk to me-you're probably better off not being there, and I would bump your issue upstairs to corp or MO labor for sure.



thank you i am glad someone gets it!!! i contacted him how he said he wanted me to do. i hate texting. i found another job and wanted to both and he doesn't even want to talk about or work with me in any fashion. I wanted to discuss it with him and see what we could make work. but he had absolutely zero interest in doing that. it wasn't like he gave me an idea what my hours would be and then i asked him to change he wouldn't give me any straight answers. he just acted like ill give you what i give you and you take it or leave it. he even said if i schedule you before school is out i expect you to be here. i mean that's a load of [censored]!!! but some how i am the bad guy! some people just want to jump the gun and point fingers. i agree the situation wasn't optimal. but i was straight up from the get go with him. and wouldn't any of you take the better job with nicer management? i mean some people act like that was the dumb thing to do.

 

[LeakySeals]

Yeah your right, it was that manager. His lack of experience is obvious in one key area. Other managers on here know what that area is.

 

[Dakota1820]

all i can tell you is i wanted to work for domino's i dont just walk away from things. he put me in a position that i wasn't sure how to handle and when trying to talk to him he would just blow me off. i had no other choice. he said in the beginning they are flexible and can work with my schedule because believe it or not they do have to work around a schedule. that's why they ask you for your availability. and then he wont even try. i could have made it work because my new employer was more than willing to accommodate but he wouldn't even listen. it would be different if i agreed to specific things but he wasn't ever specific on anything. he was wishy washy and inconsistent. i just wanted to work for both i dont understand why that was such a big deal and if it wouldn't work for him we could have parted ways i get paid for my time and it would have been done. the money doesn't come out of his earnings so why he doesn't want to follow the law i am not sure.

 

[Dakota1820]

thank you to all that has given good advice. i spoke to the guy a few minutes ago and asked for the store owners number he will not give it to me so i guess i will have to call the labor board. i do not know any other way really.

 

[01rangerxl]

Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
and poprivet again you are not going to tell me there hasn't been a time in your life when you wanted to choke someone. of course you wouldn't do it because you are more mature than that. but you get my point. yea i would like to choke him for being an absolute idiot but i clearly realize that would not work. so i have to handle it in an adult way. you take things out of context. being angry at someone does not make me a bad person. yes actually causing some physical harm does make me a guy of questionable integrity but just wishing i could doesn't make me a bad guy. everyone has felt like that before.


His point is you seem to feel that way a lot, and eventually it could get you in trouble. Most things in life, and this is one of them, aren't worth getting that angry over. Thinking about wanting to cause someone physical harm isn't healthy for you either, and thoughts can lead to actions if you don't keep your anger in check.

It sounds like this guy wouldn't have been any good to work for anyway, so it's probably a good thing it fell apart before you really got started.

If you clocked in and clocked out for the hours you were there, yes, he owes you a check. If you don't collect the check, it should be mailed to the address you provided. If that doesn't happen, contact corporate's HR department and see if you get anywhere. Beyond that, unless it's a big check, you may end up investing more time and effort than it's worth to get it. If you have a record of the hours you worked that will help.

I am not defending this manager's behavior, since he clearly can't manage, but one thing you need to understand is that it costs any company money to train you. He doesn't get anything out of you training for a job, then you moving on to something else right away. If you put down full availability, and then that suddenly changed, I could see why he wouldn't be happy, though he should have handled it in a mature way.

In the future, I would iron out the hours/availability before you commit to the job. I understand when you just need a job wanting to take the first thing that comes your way, but that can lead to situations like this. If you don't get an upfront answer about when and how much you will be working before you agree to the job, don't take it. Employers are not obligated to work around your school schedule after high school, so if an employer says they won't, they are within their rights to do so.

 

[Dakota1820]

The issue with school was he said my availability was fine and that mu school would be no problem. And then all the sudden its a problem. All of this o yea we can work with you than o no we can't was why I said screw it and went to the other place. I agree with everything you said though. I know he isn't obligated but if he agrees to it then he should stick to it. And originally I wad told it wad only ten 2 20 hours a week then it was well I don't know and then I can't guarantee you'll even get hours every week. The story always changed. That's why I tried to iron out a plan when I was offered my current job and he was just lost. He couldn't give me any idea when or how much I would be working he acted clueless. So I just took the other job. I didn't really know what else to do. And since I was out of a job I wasn't being to picky. I was going to work each place 3days or something like that since he only needed 10-30hrs at first I figured that would work OK. Especially since the other place said when domino's gives you a schedule let us know and we will work around it for you.

 

[Dakota1820]

I meant 10-20hrs