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I saw a post recently (that was locked) where basically it was sort of stated that bobistheoilguy.com has become kind of stale, with the same stuff being discussed again and again.

I don't completely agree with this. There are bound to be interesting new motor oil concepts, oil additives, etc., developed and interesting new discussions.

But it would be interesting to see discussions on fresh topics.

For example, we could disucss new oil supplements that have come out.

Maybe somebody with an interest in products like Rislone could post before and after photos.

Maybe somebody could test the effectiveness of magnetic oil pan heaters.

Maybe somebody could show before and after photos of Lubegard flush testing.

Just a few examples.
 
You haven't seen stale yet: just wait for the flood of winter-related, rehashed topics that wash up every fall. There should be a separate 'seasonal' section for climate-related topics.
 
Can I run 20w-50 when it's 40 below in Maine?
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Kinda brings up a topic, actually. Living in Wyoming for 17+ years, I saw my share of bitterly cold, and LONG winters and back then (1978 - 1995) me and the rest of my family ran 10w30 oil all winter and moved up to 10W-40 during summer, with zero problems in cars ranging from a 1978 Chevy Monza 2.5, a 1978 Chevy Blazer 5.7, 1985 Honda Accord SEi, all the way to a 1993 Thunderbird 3.8. Now that thinner oils (5W-20 - Yikes) are common, 10W-40 is almost extinct and I can't remember the last time I saw a bottle of 20W-50 on the shelf at WalMart. The question I'm getting to is...are thicker oils REALLY that detrimental? My Monza, Civics, Oldsmobiles, etc all sat outside in -40 degree nights and started every morning, with no oil-related catastrophies. What, besides a supposed bump in MPG, is behind the thin oil craze?
 
The rules are the same, maybe there are some folks who still haven't made the transition to the new board.

In the last thread, TanSedan posted this:

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As to Australia being a topic worth flushing, well, Pablo, he gets you EVERY time with that litany

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I don't think I've ever posted anything about Australia "being a topic worth flushing" so I'm not sure what he is saying??? Makes no sense.
 
I do kind of think that MPG were a major consideration when the thinner oils were developed. Of course, no doubt, engines are now being designed with the new oils in mind.

ON THE OTHER HAND, it can get very cold in parts of Europe and they tend to use thicker oils then we do, such as 5W-40. Why the difference?

It does tend to make a person winder about some stuff, if you know what I mean.
 
This might reflect the motor oil market in general. Five years ago all the "high mileage" and "4x4" oils were coming out. Now it seems ordinary PCMO at $2.25/qt is getting the majority of sales, just like unbranded regular gasoline. This is likely contracting the "shelf buffer" oils meant to hog space that could otherwise go to a competitor product. This new QS "torque" syn blend is one (the only?) new thing on the radar.

Truly if one found a lubrication article from anywhere in history, it would say "today's oils are so great"... yadda yadda. It would be like that guy in the late 1800's who said that everything that could possibly have been invented, had already been.

Katrina's effect was interesting as people discussed the probably detrimental effect of group I basestocks and substitute additives. I wouldn't wish that on anyone again though.

I figure myself fairly well rounded mechanically but no tribologist and respect those who truly know what's up. I will
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sit back and watch anyone with the patience to test and discover that minor edge in performance: discussions out of my grasp, though with results I might use. But I'll share what I know about driveway rebuilds of mid-90s Saturn engines and maybe help someone out. The BITOG mindset of (literally) overanalyzing things applies to other stuff in life too.
 
Hmm after a while, for me, BitOG ceases to be about oil and is more about critical thinking and obtaining other points of view. Lessons learned on BitOG assist me in other areas. I don't really get challenged intellectually from the knuckleheads who do construction work for me nor do I see deep thinking on other car forums. I'm still trying to explain how having 2 sets of tires (summer&snow) that wear down and out every year and eventually don't work well (fail to perform their function) verses 2 sets of all-seasons that can be swapped around and don't wear as fast. Point being that you can't use bald snows as performance tires in summer nor can you use new full-tread summer tires for traction in winter. With all-seasons you can use them as-needed with the appropriate amount of tread for conditions. BitOG guys would get it (not spending $1000 a year on tires) AudiWorld guys have an OCD complex based on MAX PERFORMANCE 18" snows and other ________ so bad they can even see how their MAX PERF tires don't offer the best economy NOR the best performance after they are worn away. I am rambling, but at least here we can have a logical discussion on it.
 
EDIT: They have performance OCD so bad, they >can't< even see how their performance tires don't perform when worn.
 
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The rules are the same, maybe there are some folks who still haven't made the transition to the new board.

In the last thread, TanSedan posted this:

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As to Australia being a topic worth flushing, well, Pablo, he gets you EVERY time with that litany

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I don't think I've ever posted anything about Australia "being a topic worth flushing" so I'm not sure what he is saying??? Makes no sense.

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Naaw, just that he's gigged you more than once with that Australia is better or foreign topics, naturally political (poor Australia) aren't well served in America and so forth.

I thought it was a routine you two had worked up.
 
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Hmm after a while, for me, BitOG ceases to be about oil and is more about critical thinking and obtaining other points of view. Lessons learned on BitOG assist me in other areas. I don't really get challenged intellectually from the knuckleheads who do construction work for me nor do I see deep thinking on other car forums.

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Right on!!!!
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"Point being that you can't use bald snows as performance tires in summer nor can you use new full-tread summer tires for traction in winter. With all-seasons you can use them as-needed with the appropriate amount of tread for conditions."

All seasons won't have the speed ratings for summer use, nor the traction on ice that a decent winter tire should have, but drive slower and stay in the flatlands and you can get by with all season tires just fine in all seasons, almost all the time (ice close to freezing probably excluded).
 
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I saw a post recently (that was locked) where basically it was sort of stated that bobistheoilguy.com has become kind of stale, with the same stuff being discussed again and again.

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It's obvious that those who made the above complaint never bothered to read about Pablo's rock.
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you certainly can use winter tyres in the summer. i got a really good deal ($20 each) on some winter tyres one time and ran them around for a few years down in south florida, where it never snows.
they didnt have quite as much traction in the rain as a good summer tyre, but they were certainly good enough for me.
 
In really bad conditions nothing will beat tire chains. It is pretty expensive having special snow tires for the winter as well as tires for the warmer months. But my most recent cars cannot use tire chains. There is not enough clearance. And the problem with chains is that they are great for terrible conditions but when conditions get better you can't leave them on. You have to put them on only when conditions are really bad.
 
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