Need an indestructible dog cage

[Phishin]

Eljefino,

I had a 70 pound Red-Nose Pitbull that would DESTROY cages as well. She was a machine. You couldn't keep her in it. She would stomp her feet so hard and rattle the cage/metal floor pan so loud, you could hear it down the street a few houses away.

The problem with these Pits and Pit-blends is, their pain tolerance is so high, that they ignore the pain they are experiencing because they are so hyper-focused on escaping. The good news is, these dogs can have HUGE hearts, and they are hyper-sensitive to the owners approval and love. My pits wouldn't make a peep if they broke their leg while playing, but if you raise your hand to them, and give me a very gentle smack on the rear, they scream and make all kinds of ridiculous noises. LOL!!!

My pits move bowling ball size rocks in my landscaping with their noses. I couldn't figure it out for a long time. I thought the neighbor kids were screwing with me. I finally caught one of them doing it. Their noses were all bloody and tore up, but they don't care.

Okay, back to the solution:
Your dog is being defiant and wants your attention all the time. Pooping by your door is very clear behavior. Wanting out of the cage is too.

Does the dog easily go into the cage in the morning? OR is it fighting you to go in? Does the dog sleep wherever it wants throughout the night or do you crate it then too?

 

[Flareside302]

Dude let this dog go.. You can't do this to a dog.. If ya have a fenced in back yard let him run free in that.. He'll love it..

Dogs mainly big ones, they were never meant to be inside dogs...

Otherwise put this dog down cause he's gonna grow to resent you for keeping him cooped up.. Not a good ordeal..

 

[Mamala Bay]

My dog always like sitting under the tree with birds. Birds are natures healers like therapy. It's like the dog goes into a fantasy world. But what happens is it's call 'nature's complacent' nature's theraputic fantasy the dog will feel the walls caving in even when loose after time. Dog's need to get out of that nature's complacent. Not that nature's complacent is a bad thing it kept my dog with peace within.

Dog's need to explore see different settings. It needs to have it's instinct used. This is like something they feel an accomplishment..satisfied. This will get them out of the nature's complacent.

I took my dog to different settings. I'd go to the same spot 3 times watch him explore but he always knew where and he'd explore further away from the spot the second and third time.

After taking my dog to different areas the smarter the dog became. He'd hardly bark at things or wasted his time. He always sat under the tree it was therapy for him inner peace. But he always knew I'd take him out.

 

[eljefino]

Originally Posted By: Phishin

Does the dog easily go into the cage in the morning? OR is it fighting you to go in? Does the dog sleep wherever it wants throughout the night or do you crate it then too?


His big thing is to dance around happily when the kids are putting their shoes on etc but willingly goes to his crate when told. He only pouts a little, but goes.

He likes his crate; he goes up there at 8 or 9 pm and snoozes then we lock it at 10... he doesn't care, because he knows we're the next room over. He gets lots of routine which I figure is good for dogs.

Not that it's anyone's business, but we adopted this beast from a family member who was going through a rough spot. He's got it better than some and worse than others, and I'm trying to improve his situation while letting him know where he sits on the totem pole.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Get a dog that has no pitbull gene pool or traits.

 

[aquariuscsm]

He may just be lonely. Get him a friend.

 

[kb01]

If he's causing that much damage in 4 or 5 hours, there must be some underlying reason as to why. Ideally, with crate training the crate acts as a den or a respite from stress. Fortifying the crate, when he's already stressed/bored might just exasperate the issues.

A downside to the wire cages is that a dog can feel really exposed and vulnerable. It's usually a good idea to cover the sides with a blanket, so it's more den-like.

If he's prone to pooping in the house after only a few hours and is showing signs of boredom, a long walk/run in the morning before work might help. At the very least, it will facilitate a BM and encourage him to sleep while you're not home.

 

[eljefino]

I'll try the blanket thing. The fiberglass air travel crate had a roof. I want a "humane" crate that doesn't have wire for him to gnaw on-- some sort of smooth surface instead. He had a thick bed in there to keep him off the wire floor which wasn't enough so we put some chipboard in too. Mistake, he shredded that and then threw up chips later.

So wood is out of the picture as a building material.

Would love to get him "a room" with a window he can see through etc but the house design isn't really great for this.

 

[supton]

Have you tried a dog trainer? Like, gone away for a weekend, sprung for some time in a kennel? We've done that, and we think it helped some. At the very least, the dog comes home and sleeps for a few days.

 

[SatinSilver]

Or a few weeks with the trainer. How old is this beast?

My brother's 70 pound male Boxer is very well behaved indoors. Very calm. Sits in a chair by a window and watches people walk by without a peep even when their walking a dog. He goes to a dog park most mornings. He travels just about everywhere with them. Even from Northern VA to Michigan. They stop in northern Ohio to visit us but that's still a long haul.

Any pictures of him?

 

[Fleetmon]

I just happened to remember a dog a good friend of mine had that was used to a cage....no problem until they moved into another house and the dog went wild in the cage and would occasionally break out of the cage and wreak havoc on everything. Turns out the previous owners had electronic noise generators for pests all around the house and one happened to be behind his cage. Once they removed the noise generators, things returned to normal within a few weeks.

 

[Kuato]

Originally Posted By: eljefino
Originally Posted By: Rick in PA
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Wife suggested rebar.

2 points for your wife, humorous too.
Do you leave a radio playing, perhaps a TV. Maybe some distraction might calm him down. Sounds like he's got separation anxiety. Good luck.


Yeah it got worse yesterday when the CO alarm (eight feet from his cage) started its low battery chirp.

He doesn't care about all that (radio) stuff-- he's a one-person dog (me!) and I didn't even bring him home.

I slither out at 4:30 am to go to work and when he wakes up, I'm not there. The other people lock him up at 8:30 then I liberate him at 1.

He gets attention and exercise when I'm around, but his crate-breaking spirit needs breaking.


Had several dogs with similar, if not as bad issues. Wqke him up at 4, go for a 20 min walk, feed him and tell him you are going to work. Make it a routine. He will soon be fine, rebar not required.

 

[Smokescreen]

Wow. I never knew some dogs could get like this. This is nuts.

 

[eljefino]

Here he is by the wood stove...

 

[Smokescreen]

To each their own. I couldn't deal with something like that.

 

[eljefino]

It's tough when one battles wits and thinks they won. This darn dog is a step ahead of me. I need to get ten steps ahead of him, so he'll just quit this arms race.

He's good with the kids... my youngest was one when we got him. In fact part of the reason for getting his first crate was it was "his place to go" and the kids weren't allowed to bug him there.

And his eyes really do this for the flash. Cujo...

 

[SatinSilver]

Awww, very cool! Thanks for sharing. How old is the dog? My brother's Boxer was pretty obnoxious till the age of 1 or so. Maybe a little longer. No formal training really.

 

[eljefino]

About 3-4 years old. Spent the first year with another family member (and three other dogs inc his mom) then shunned him last thanksgiving-- used to be real excited to see him.