Yes, they've put it under "Additional specifications" rather than "approvals".
You are claiming it's the same oil, but the oil from Valvoline has formal approvals and shows up on the BEVO and VW lists, this oil doesn't. So, as I said, somebody would need to contact Valvoline to find out if it's the same oil, sans approvals or it is, as the bottle states, specifically developed for NAPA by Valvoline, making it a different product.Or, you can look at it as it's the same Valvoline bottle oil but not paying for the approvals on this NAPA bottle & it's reflected in the price.
Precisely.Just because it's formulated by Valvoline, it doesn't mean it's the same oil.
Since you're making the claim, the onus is upon you to prove it's EXACTLY the same now. Seems you've backed yourself into a corner and now HAVE to prove it.Or, you can look at it as it's the same Valvoline bottle oil but not paying for the approvals on this NAPA bottle & it's reflected in the price.
Of course you don't know that it "meets the Euro specs" since after all, it has none. Especially since they aren't specs in the first place but approvals.So there we have it... Great priced Valvoline oil that meets the Euro specs.
As soon as you show me the proof it's different. I have all the evidence I need.Since you're making the claim, the onus is upon you to prove it's EXACTLY the same now. Seems you've backed yourself into a corner and now HAVE to prove it.
Or how about you show us the proof that it is the same?As soon as you show me the proof it's different.
It CLAIMS to meet or exceed those certifications, but doesn't actually have them. Without verification and testing from the licensing parties, that statement is unverifiable.
Then you failed in the debate. You make the claim prove it or you're making false statements.As soon as you show me the proof it's different. I have all the evidence I need.
You're assuming it's not the same so your making a false assumption w/o proof.Then you failed in the debate. You make the claim prove it or you're making false statements.
The entire point of an approval.It CLAIMS to meet or exceed those certifications, but doesn't actually have them. Without verification and testing from the licensing parties, that statement is unverifiable.
I guess you failed debate 101. It's incumbent upon the claimant to prove their assertion. Prove it's the same exact oil and meets those certifications.You're assuming it's not the same so your making a false assumption w/o proof.
It says "Meets" right on the bottle there's your proof. There are many folks that run oil that state those exact words. It's a non issue.I guess you failed debate 101. It's incumbent upon the claimant to prove their assertion. Prove it's the same exact oil and meets those certifications.
For API SN. For the Euro applicability list it's under "Additional Specifications".It says "Meets" right on the bottle there's your proof. There are many folks that run oil that state those exact words. It's a non issue.
I see they are displaying it differently, except the "recommended for" VW, but you know that is not a big deal. Many forum members run officially un "approved" oils. Surely we're not questioning Valvoline's performance to meet those specs either?For API SN. For the Euro applicability list it's under "Additional Specifications".
Here is the back of the Valvoline bottle, note it says "Approved/Licensed for:"
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Yes, we KNOWINGLY run oils that have no formal approvals, but that's going the other direction, they are considerably more expensive than most approved oils, it's not a money saving endeavour.I see they are displaying it differently but you know that is not a big deal. Many forum members run un "approved" oils. Surely we're not questioning Valvoline's performance to meet those specs either?
That's not a certification or official approval. You still need to prove it's exactly the same oil as Valvoline branded oil, which was your assertion.It says "Meets" right on the bottle there's your proof. There are many folks that run oil that state those exact words. It's a non issue.