My plan, new 3.6 legacy.

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Nothing like a new car!

Brand new Subaru Legacy with the 3.6 liter flat six.
Subaru wants it to run 5w30 Regular or Synthetic preferred, (their words)and first change at 3k miles with 6k intervals.

I hear they are shipped with conventional oil but I can't wait till 3000 miles.

At 1k fresh synthetic going in with 5k intervals. Wife mostly drives with short trips.

I stretch its legs when I drive during break-in.
 
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Ah, the dilemma of a BITOG'er with a new car! We WANT to change the oil, but can't!
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Keep with the owners manual until the warranty is out. Then do what you want. I would just run a quality dino and do the minimum.

I have the 2.5 and at least you have "options".
 
Subies usually like something between 10w40 and 30.

N.American "FULLY Synthetic" ++ is just for ultra COLD operation where you need that lil extra lower MRV, Eh?

++ + Usually NOT synthetic at all.

Now who here or the OP is going to use that big 3.6L engine - I see NONE OF YOU using even 1/2 of your LITTLE engine's potential as I whizz by you distracted sleepy, slugs EVERY morning commute.

Waste of a good engine for a little Legacy. And say goodby to 10grand$$ of value 1 month after you take posession.

Yes a nice combo, but a waste nonetheless given the way I see you ALL driving.
 
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To ARCOgraphite:

Also all Subarus being AWD is pretty much worthless. 99% of Subarus are just grocery getters(wagons) so no need for an advanced AWD system. Unless you live in a rural area or get lots of ice and snow, an AWD system is just a waste of money.
 
Originally Posted By: aircooled
Nothing like a new car!

Brand new Subaru Legacy with the 3.6 liter flat six.
Subaru wants it to run 5w30 Regular or Synthetic preferred, (their words)and first change at 3k miles with 6k intervals.

I hear they are shipped with conventional oil but I can't wait till 3000 miles.

At 1k fresh synthetic going in with 5k intervals. Wife mostly drives with short trips.

I stretch its legs when I drive during break-in.


Don't worry about babying this engine. I've owned a 2010 OB 3.6R mule and it does very well with garden-variety conventional oil. My wife drives it like a sports car in town and it doesn't seem to mind.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3136891
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3810526/2010_Subaru_OB_3.6R,_Chevron_S
 
Come around to my "hills" between Nov and March. I don't 'need' it during the warm months (it was nice to drive around my yard after the bears darted inside the fence), but despite only a little "snow" my "street" (20% winding up) can become unnavigable with as little as a dusting... and that is in city limits. Oh, I don't get snowdays.

So MR2 for now, Subaru for the winter. I have AWD/4WD Fords and GMs for work, none are as good in the snowy hills as the Subie.

Plus, I would take the 3.6 over the 2.5. Fuel economy is not all that bad and the 2.5 is SLOW. Still, I am not paying for a "Limited" either. If it was a base with the 3.6, I would be sold.
 
Originally Posted By: FutureDoc
Come around to my "hills" between Nov and March. I don't 'need' it during the warm months (it was nice to drive around my yard after the bears darted inside the fence), but despite only a little "snow" my "street" (20% winding up) can become unnavigable with as little as a dusting... and that is in city limits. Oh, I don't get snowdays.

So MR2 for now, Subaru for the winter. I have AWD/4WD Fords and GMs for work, none are as good in the snowy hills as the Subie.

Plus, I would take the 3.6 over the 2.5. Fuel economy is not all that bad and the 2.5 is SLOW. Still, I am not paying for a "Limited" either. If it was a base with the 3.6, I would be sold.


I did say "if you live in rural areas" and it sounds like you do. I live here in St. Louis and we more than likely get more snow than the folks in North Carolina. I can count on one hand how many days it would have been nice to have 4WD/AWD per year. I seem to manage with just having a locking rear differential. Having good tires, driving intelligently in inclement weather, and putting some extra weight on the rear axle when the weather gets bad has gotten me by for many years.
 
Originally Posted By: HangFire
Wow. That escalated quickly.

Aircooled, enjoy your new car.

Me, I have to figure out how is it ARCOgraphite can see us ALL driving.


And how it offends him that other people "waste" their own money.
 
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
++ + Usually NOT synthetic at all.

That may be true, but, without trying to derail, just because it says synthetic doesn't mean it's going to have any better cold weather performance unless, perhaps, it's actually a 0w-XX or something.
 
Actually there's a lot of evidence that Subarus come with synthetic. In fact, there is evidence that they were coming with 0w-20 as the factory fill for years before they ever started spec'ing Xw-20 oil for some engines.

I'm a fan of an early change, so I like your plan to change it out at 1k miles and then every 5k miles after that.

BTW, the flat 6 is nice, the only issue I'm aware of (and they might've changed this) but the back two spark plugs are apparently a pain to get to. There are step by step guides online telling people exactly how to do it, and it's still a 4-8 hour project just to get the plugs done. Some shops will even half pull the engine just to get to the back plugs easier.
 
Nice car AC, I like the flat 6 engine. Low CoG for good handling.

They gave you some good advice: "Subaru wants it to run 5w30 Regular or Synthetic preferred"

I would run a synthetic 5W30 of your favorite flavor.

If you want to change a little early, that's fine by me, it's your car.

Subie make a great AWD system, if it keeps you out of trouble once a year then it has done it's job.

If it was me, I would get a 5W30 synthetic with the Euro A3/B4 rating. But that's me.

Have fun
 
Funny responses!

Thank you Arcographite for telling me I am foolish with ordering such a large engine and driving 10 under the speed limit while you impersonate Mario Andretti! (and wasting my money)

And Stchman, Good to know I also wasted money on a sophisticated AWD system so my wife doesn't get stuck in the steep hills here during the CT winters. (maybe we should all drive RWD Novas and dusters with base engines?)

Thanks to the rest for the nice words......I'll stick to my oil change intervals that I planned!
 
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Originally Posted By: aircooled
Funny responses!

Thank you Arcographite for telling me I am foolish with ordering such a large engine and driving 10 under the speed limit while you impersonate Mario Andretti! (and wasting my money)

And Stchman, Good to know I also wasted money on a sophisticated AWD system so my wife doesn't get stuck in the steep hills here during the CT winters. (maybe we should all drive RWD Novas and dusters with base engines?)

Thanks to the rest for the nice words......I'll stick to my oil change intervals that I planned!


Jeez, I did say that unless you lived in rural areas or places that get a lot of ice and snow that AWD/4WD is pretty useless. Please READ and comprehend what I said.

Here in St. Louis I can count on ONE hand(didn't use all my fingers) the number of days that AWD/4WD would have been nice. People also believe that AWD makes them invincible in inclement weather.

It cracks me up that people have to have some kind of AWD system when they live in places like Florida or Texas. Better have absolute road grip taking that Subaru to the grocery store when it's 90F outside!!!!

If someone wants 4WD/AWD and that makes them feel better, great, it's their money, spend it how you wish.

BTW, the whole thing was spawned by ARCOgraphite saying that V6 Subarus are not worth the money.
 
stchman,

fyi, I live in "the city" (in the city limits) of a 1/2+ million metro area. We only get about 12" of snow a year...(likely less than St. Louis) but we will have 7-10 small, often ice events or more. It is irrelevant if it is a 1/10 or 10 inches as the slope will make many roads impassable. I know folks from Boston like to giggle at how little snow closes things here but it is less about the weather (save for the icing) and more about the terrain. On one side of the ridge, it can be 50 degrees and spring-like , others can be sub 30 with frozen creeks. Worse, the freeze-thaw makes sheets of ice very problematic. Don't forget that many people in this world are designated as "emergency or critical-function" so there is no such snow day and having a 4WD option for employment is essential.

Also, have you driven an AWD vehicle in a lot of rain? It makes up for it then too.

If you want to talk about a useless vehicles, we should talk about all these accountants driving 4-door pickups as their DD
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Originally Posted By: aircooled
Nothing like a new car!

Brand new Subaru Legacy with the 3.6 liter flat six.
Subaru wants it to run 5w30 Regular or Synthetic preferred, (their words)and first change at 3k miles with 6k intervals.


Congrats on the new car. When you refer to Subaru above, are you referring to the dealership or the manufacturer?
 
Originally Posted By: satinsilver
Originally Posted By: aircooled
Nothing like a new car!

Brand new Subaru Legacy with the 3.6 liter flat six.
Subaru wants it to run 5w30 Regular or Synthetic preferred, (their words)and first change at 3k miles with 6k intervals.


Congrats on the new car. When you refer to Subaru above, are you referring to the dealership or the manufacturer?


Manufacturer. Dealers rarely see any of my vehicles.
 
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