My Dream Setup

[Americanflag]

Hey, I don't wanta freak anybody out, but here is my thought on my dream setup for my 03 Mustang 4.6L:

Baldwin Air filter, and in front of that at the opening a K&N Air filter.

Mobil 1 oil filter

Bypass Filter

Mobil 1 5w30 Oil

Electric Preoiler

Oil Changes every 3000 miles

Change engine coolant every 2 years

Full tuneup every 100,000 miles


Whatda ya guys think, would the engine last a while? The setup wouldn't even be that expensive versus the cost of gas these days!

[ March 01, 2003, 11:37 PM: Message edited by: Americanflag ]

 

[Al]

Its probably a good idea ... but things can happen to a car. It could suffer a failure (even in the engine unrelated to dirt or wear. The car could get wrecked, the bypass filter and pre-lubricator make the vehicle somewhat more unreliable. The vehicle could wear out for other reasons-so you really should address the transmission and lubrication enhancement here. Also the 5W-Mobil is probably inferior to some other oils or even to the 10W. (I won't get into a debate here though

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So I guess I will bank on the fact that (for me). The 12K miles I drive per year will carry my little Sentra 2L to the point where 30+ mpg will probably be too low as a practical matter. And that might be optimistic once the Idiot from Bagdad torches his oil wells.

Looks like my check in the mail just got to Ed

[ March 02, 2003, 07:54 AM: Message edited by: Al ]

 

[Pablo]

I say go for it, and get back with us at 1Meg miles.

I doubt you would even need to change the oil that frequently. I've admittedly pushed the limits (and people's patience

) talking about extended OIC's - but if done correctly and inteligently (no one size fits all) they don't shorten component life. So with that knowledge and the fact that you are talking by-pass (and some chunk o' change)....you may want to factor in oil analysis...

 

[unDummy]

Change coolant yearly without doing flushes. I've seen coolant test bad after a year of use. Just drain and refill the radiator or get coolant filtration. Antifreeze filtration is rare.

Quit dreaming. $2 filter with Mobil1 oil will be just as good. Bypass filtration is questionable with religious 3k mile oil/filter changes. And, prelubers aren't used on 99.99% of cars that I've worked on that have easily lasted many miles. A working ADBV is more important.

Tuneups should be performed as needed. O2 sensor/plugs/fuel&air filters, IMHO, don't last 100k miles.

And, I hate car accidents and vehicle theft. These two alone have defeated many years of compulsive preventive/predictive maintenance.

 

[Americanflag]

Undummy, you make a good point about vehicle theft, it reminds me of that old Red Fox joke, "I had a friend who quit smoking to protect his health. He got hit by a tobacco truck."

I know the 3k oil changes would be overkill with my dream setup, but hey, remember, this is my dream!

Just curious, I know you touched on this, what preventive maintenance would be recommended for the car and when, assuming the oil system is gonna run in top shape? Coolant once a year? Anything else that maybe the mechanics, industry, won't emphasize?

 

[Patman]

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Originally posted by unDummy:
Change coolant yearly without doing flushes. I've seen coolant test bad after a year of use. Just drain and refill the radiator or get coolant filtration. Antifreeze filtration is rare.

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That's what I do in my wife's car, it's so easy to drain and refill the rad, and doing so gets rid of about half the capacity too. So I usually do it once in spring and once in fall. This method will ensure clean coolant always, and never will I need a full flush to be done.

My LT1 Firebird is trickier, since it's tricky to get all the air out of the reverse flow cooling system, so I will just continue getting full flushes done at the dealer every other year. I just had one done in the fall, then a few weeks ago it got freshened up again since I had a new water pump installed. I should be good for a couple of years now.

 

[DEWFPO]

AmericanFlag, I like your dream set-up.

I would suggest using a Higher Flow, less restrictive oil filter if your going with the Bypass filter set-up. For the same reasons you are using the K&N in front of the Baldwin air filter. Let the higher flow filter just filter out the bigger chunks and keep the pressure and flow up in the engine, the bypass will take care of the rest.

I don't think that going further than 3k on the oil changes will hurt anything. Especially with all the filtration and top shelf oil you've got working for you.

Also, 100k tune-ups......? If you want your engine to stay at 100% all the time, forget waiting 100K miles. Maybe 30k.

Let us know how yourt dream works out.

 

[Americanflag]

Oh, I forgot. Besides the K&N air filter and the Baldwin final filter, I am going to use a Hepa air filter that takes out like all particles less than 1 micron.

Anyone know any good vitamins? I want to last as long as the engine!

I thought I would use the car to search for the fountain of youth!

Thank you for the suggestion on tune ups/spark plugs. Maybe I will go 50,000. And I like the radiator refill without flushing idea. Seems like a good interim measure.

Any other ideas I might consider? (besides waxing the exterior so it lasts too?)

[ March 02, 2003, 05:37 PM: Message edited by: Americanflag ]

 

[joee12]

Go with 10W30 instead of the 5W30 Mobi1 1. -Joe

 

[unDummy]

Oil pressure accumulator is missing

Then it would be perfect!

 

[Malibu]

Americanflag, a few years ago a Ford executive boasted "we build our cars & trucks to a 160,000 mile durability standard."

That's another way of saying: "our cars and trucks are subject to severe mechancal failures after 160,000 miles." ALOT of things could go wrong with your Mustang unrelated to lubrication. Example: Ford may have designed a marginal head gasket or intake manifold gasket that is likely to break after 200K causing coolant to get in the oil and destroy all your preventive maintainance efforts. There are many, many other possibilities along those lines. That's why American car owners tend to get fustrated (except for the ones who think 160K -200K is excellent service and that's all that should be expected of a car. )

 

[Americanflag]

Do you think 10w30 would be better at providing longer engine life than 5w30?

Wouldn't 5w30 offer better protection at start-up than 10w30? (Not accounting for the pre-oiler.)

Remember, this 4.6L V-8 03 Ford engine calls for 5W-20 based on the manual.

What do you think?

[ March 03, 2003, 12:57 AM: Message edited by: Americanflag ]

 

[cryptokid]

if your gonna change the oil every 3K AND have a bypass filter, save your self some money and buy the cheapest oil you can find. and get it in 20wt.

 

[Americanflag]

Now 20 weight? Why?

The last said 10w30? Why?

 

[cryptokid]

fuel economy.
that little 20wt would last a while with a bypass filter.
and sence ur gonna drain at 3K intervals, use the 20wt.

 

[Americanflag]

How much added fuel economy would 20 weight offer? I have heard it is undetectable on an individual basis...

 

[Steve S]

I think that a dual full flow filter setup built on the engine using the 2 quart filters like Chevrolet truck filters they would allow more filtered oil at all times. A preluber and a Gulf coast paper towel filter . The Gulf coast filter adds oil capacity as well as the dual 2 quart filters which keeps the parts per million of crud lower . This would be my dream setup , not necessary but then it is my dream. Would this take to long for the oil to reach operating temperature?