My concern with the new Camry

[GW.]

When I buy a vehicle I run whatever oil I want. It’s my vehicle after all…

 

[4wd]

Yes, some people are quite predictable, aren’t they?

Definitely

 

[SC Maintenance]

Don't know about Toyota. But I can defiantly tell you GM will pull an oil sample in some instances to confirm a warranty repair. To be clear-I am not refencing anything currently happening with one of their motors.

I believe you. Do you think there trying to get around a certain warranty problem? I have never heard of anyone else doing this but certainly not saying it never happened.

 

[4wd]

0W-20 so you can track it on WE’s

 

[edyvw]

When it comes time to take that 2026 Camry to the dealer for an oil change and the lube technician reaches up for the oil dispenser gun on the hose reel, do you think they're going to have 0W-8 in their bulk oil tanks?

When 0W-20 first came out, they still had 10W-30 in their bulk oil tanks.

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My local Toyota dealer used Valvoline only. So, who knows.
Local VW dealer used VW 5W40 in everything for a long time, even when Budack cycles moved to 0W20.

 

[kschachn]

Local VW dealer used VW 5W40 in everything for a long time, even when Budack cycles moved to 0W20.

I suspect my local VW dealer may do the same thing.

 

[joekingcorvette]

Toyota makes very good hybrids and I wouldn't worry too much since their past history is pretty decent. I would probably go with the recommended oil or a 0W16. I have a 2024 Rav 4 hybrid AWD and a 2025 Ford Maverick hybrid and do not foresee any problems with the engines or transmissions. So far I really like the hybrids and the mileage is outstanding. My F150 seems like a waste of money to drive unless I am going to use it for what it is made for. I believe that engine should last a very long time no matter which oil you decide to go with. In cold climates where is gets minus 20 degrees I don't think I would use the 0W20.

 

[CKN]

Were seeing lots of problems getting replacement electrical components like ECU's for vehicles in the 10 year old + range now. Remember the chip shortage. OEM's were juggling components like hot potatoes. I bet anything built in that period comes back to bite us down the road.

The " C" thing did throw a wrench in to such things. Not normal.

 

[CKN]

I believe you. Do you think there trying to get around a certain warranty problem? I have never heard of anyone else doing this but certainly not saying it never happened.

There are credible GM techs that hang out on the truck boards. They state with some motor issues, especially replacement they will request an UOA. They dont usually state exactly why.

 

[XB_Fan]

If you are concerned you can always go thicker. 0W-8 is for CAFE fuel economy.
I'd be more concerned about the class action lawsuit for the 8 speed transmission.

This is precisely why I bought a fairly low mile 17 Camry with the 6 speed. Those are pretty good transmissions. I wanted the new body style Camry, but didn't want that 8 speed.

 

[NDL]

Don't know about the Buick, but there are at least 3 variants of the AISIN UA80 / UB80, and it has been used in an absolute ton of vehicles. 2018 and up Camry ICE, 2019 and up RAV4 ICE, a whole bunch of other fwd Toyota's. I would think with the millions of units out there if these things were giving up we would have heard about it a long time ago - we wouldn't need a class action.

There are lot of variants sold to other OEM's - VW, BMW etc. And there is a similar transmission for the rwd platforms.

Appreciate your reply

 

[Tdbo]

Why are you defiant about telling us?

That is the one thing that you can definitely count on.

 

[D60]

Pleas search existing threads on this exact topic for answers to your questions.

But no it will not void your warranty. Your manual does not say this.

So while it doesn't further the thread's fight about 0W8, Toyota uses this ridiculous wording for virtually every vehicle in recent history.

While we'll never know their true intent, I think it's for plausible deniability related to CAFE. If they outright said 0W16 or 0W20 was A-OK for full-time use, any lab tests conducted with 0W8 to eek out extra fuel savings are irrelevant.

 

[PF52]

Yes, some people are quite predictable, aren’t they?

LOL Yes he sure is!

 

[Bryanccfshr]

There are credible GM techs that hang out on the truck boards. They state with some motor issues, especially replacement they will request an UOA. They dont usually state exactly why.

This could be for any number of troubleshooting cause and effect. Perhaps a spun bearing, is their glycol in the oil? I doubt they are doing g a USA to police oil spec if the oil looks relatively clean and the vehicle looks serviced. They are probably looking to cause map the failure to better gather data for the manufacturer under warranty.

 

[meep]

Surprised this hasn’t been mentioned. It’s also an Atkinson cycle engine which has less torque for a given rpm, than a traditional Otto cycle engine.

 

[Bryanccfshr]

Surprised this hasn’t been mentioned. It’s also an Atkinson cycle engine which has less torque for a given rpm, than a traditional Otto cycle engine.

Because the electric motor generator more than makes up for that loss, however the stress on the internal combustion engine is much less

 

[Nessism1]

The engine is basically a battery charger. Doesn't need tons of torque. That said, Toyota has a much bigger engine in their hybrids than companies like Honda, for example. I doubt more torque would help them.

 

[CKN]

I suspect my local VW dealer may do the same thing.

Well...a few who work a dealerships have stated that putting the incorrect oil in a vehicle (under warranty) is grounds for taking away the franchise. Don't know if it's a fact or not.

 

[HighHy21]

First, your engine will not fail due to a mechanical issue related to oil under the warranty. Second, Toyota will not ask you for evidence of what oil you have used. I don't know where all the fear comes from, but "warranty" related to oil is a non issue.

TCCN did say on one of his videos, that in order for a dealership to get a warranty claim approved for an engine problem, they are required to drain a sample of oil and submit for UOA, to ensure the proper viscosity oil was used.

Lake Speed Jr did a video on his channel talking about TGMO 0w8 oil, and seems confident with it. Question is, after ToyotaCare ends, will Lake continue to use TGMO 0w8 in his daughter's Corolla, or will he switch to HPL 0w8?