My concern with the new Camry

[NDL]

Lawyers looking for a pay out.

There were some issues early on. Were fixed. The issues were its jerky because it locks in every gear - to get amazing mileage. Its also a learning transmission. Mine is still jerky at rolling stops. This is what the lawsuit alleges. It doesn't fail. It works as intended. Some people just don't like it. I definitely suggest driving one before buying it - you will either hate it or not care.

Appreciate your reply

 

[edyvw]

If you're worried, you can use 0W-16 or 0W-20. As a Toyota fanboi, I'm hard pressed to believe that Toyota would risk their reputation without having done the proper reliability tests. Their new problematic engines seem to have issues beyond oil viscosity.

Have you followed Sequoia/Tundra debacle?
And newsflash, not the first time.

 

[edyvw]

The early ones in the Highlander are proving to be rather problematic after they have some miles.

Is that besides that 2017 debacle in AWD HL and Sienna?

 

[Dave Hess]

I had a rental 2025 Camry Hybrid for 1200 miles and I really liked the extra pep of electric motor.

I hit 118 and immediately it will cut power on a downward slope and at WOT…. I don’t like that safety feature.

 

[MCompact]

I had a rental 2025 Camry Hybrid for 1200 miles and I really liked the extra pep of electric motor.

I hit 118 and immediately it will cut power on a downward slope and at WOT…. I don’t like that safety feature.

That's infuriating; a Turner/Conforti chip eliminated the ridiculous 116 mph limiter on the Club Sport. The C43 didn't get the ROW top speed of 155 unless the optional 19" wheels were ordered.

 

[Leo99]

Have you followed Sequoia/Tundra debacle?
And newsflash, not the first time.

Yes, that's what I alluded to. I suspect they tested engines that worked fine but something happened with manufacturing to cause the debacle.

 

[edyvw]

Yes, that's what I alluded to. I suspect they tested engines that worked fine but something happened with manufacturing to cause the debacle.

No it didn’t. Issue is present since 2018.

 

[edyvw]

I had a rental 2025 Camry Hybrid for 1200 miles and I really liked the extra pep of electric motor.

I hit 118 and immediately it will cut power on a downward slope and at WOT…. I don’t like that safety feature.

118mph doesn’t sound scary until one realizes it has 3700lbs empty which is slowed down by something that resembles rotors in size of 305/28mm.

 

[SC Maintenance]

I was thinking of picking up a used Camry: would you happen to know which model years they were used in the Camry, or which transmission model number we're referring to?


Is this the same Aisin transmission used in the 2017 Buick LaCrosse?

Don't know about the Buick, but there are at least 3 variants of the AISIN UA80 / UB80, and it has been used in an absolute ton of vehicles. 2018 and up Camry ICE, 2019 and up RAV4 ICE, a whole bunch of other fwd Toyota's. I would think with the millions of units out there if these things were giving up we would have heard about it a long time ago - we wouldn't need a class action.

There are lot of variants sold to other OEM's - VW, BMW etc. And there is a similar transmission for the rwd platforms.

 

[Speedbird001]

What's wrong with the 8 speed automatic?

It's not a 6MT

Seriously though. My $0.02 The main problem with the newest vehicles and LONG term viability is most likely not the long block, but all the complexity that 5-8 years down the road simply will not be economically viable to keep running.

 

[edyvw]

Don't know about the Buick, but there are at least 3 variants of the AISIN UA80 / UB80, and it has been used in an absolute ton of vehicles. 2018 and up Camry ICE, 2019 and up RAV4 ICE, a whole bunch of other fwd Toyota's. I would think with the millions of units out there if these things were giving up we would have heard about it a long time ago - we wouldn't need a class action.

There are lot of variants sold to other OEM's - VW, BMW etc. And there is a similar transmission for the rwd platforms.

In 2017 they had issue in 2017 AWD HL and Sienna. They screwed up bunch of owners, and Toyota doesn’t do recalls unless NHTSA pushes it.
My friend had HL on dealership 36 times for transmission issue. They constantly updated software and always said: transmission is fine. He had enough, asks sales guys to trade it for 2019 Sienna, guy gives him estimate that says: faulty transmission.
He argues saying: the service said xyz. Nope, service and sales are two different things.
He got Pacifica. Still drives kids around with no problems.

 

[SC Maintenance]

It's not a 6MT

Seriously though. My $0.02 The main problem with the newest vehicles and LONG term viability is most likely not the long block, but all the complexity that 5-8 years down the road simply will not be economically viable to keep running.

The 8 speed mentioned with issues has been in the Lexus RX since 2012...

 

[CKN]

It's not a 6MT

Seriously though. My $0.02 The main problem with the newest vehicles and LONG term viability is most likely not the long block, but all the complexity that 5-8 years down the road simply will not be economically viable to keep running.

Long term reliability is an assumption on your part.

 

[Nessism1]

OP is asking about the new hybrid, not old model with AT. Too much drift in this thread.

 

[dogememe]

Put 0w-20 in it if it makes you sleep well at night. I’m not a Toyota fan and I personally prefer full EVs but you can’t go wrong with a Camry Hybrid in terms of long term reliability. Yes it’s boring, yes it’s not the best in tech, performance, or really anything, but it’s RELIABLE.

 

[edyvw]

Put 0w-20 in it if it makes you sleep well at night. I’m not a Toyota fan and I personally prefer full EVs but you can’t go wrong with a Camry Hybrid in terms of long term reliability. Yes it’s boring, yes it’s not the best in tech, performance, or really anything, but it’s RELIABLE.

They transitioned to Lithium batteries for 2025. But yes, it is fairly simple vehicle.

 

[dogememe]

They transitioned to Lithium batteries for 2025. But yes, it is fairly simple vehicle.

Yep, I’m glad they did. About time

 

[grasscutter]

When it comes time to take that 2026 Camry to the dealer for an oil change and the lube technician reaches up for the oil dispenser gun on the hose reel, do you think they're going to have 0W-8 in their bulk oil tanks?

When 0W-20 first came out, they still had 10W-30 in their bulk oil tanks.

 

[SC Maintenance]

Yep, I’m glad they did. About time

NIMH was fine in a hybrid and much cheaper to replace in 10 years. It’s not an BEV.

 

[SC Maintenance]

Long term reliability is an assumption on your part.

Were seeing lots of problems getting replacement electrical components like ECU's for vehicles in the 10 year old + range now. Remember the chip shortage. OEM's were juggling components like hot potatoes. I bet anything built in that period comes back to bite us down the road.