The I5 was trumped as having the power of a six cylinder with the economy of a four cylinder. From everything I have read about the I5, it has neither. It is underpowered compared to the competition's V6s, and it doesn't get better mileage either. Sort of like the Fusion....(getting back on-topic)
Great Job Ford!!!!
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I like to call it "Hey Sister, Go Sister, Soul Sister, Go Sister" styling... not because I'm racist
Once again, i wish it was a small version of the 500... then Id dig the styling... and of course get better than 32 MPG highway with the 4cyl stick.
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Well, I would go so far as to say that thrill seekers need not apply with the Camry. The only statement that you're making is that you're not interested in breaking any new ground and want predictible ownership. To some ..boring is good when it comes to cars (and I agree with that from time to time).
You've obviously never had a raged and neurotic soccer mom on your tail when you're not in a hurry. She always is. She may not be a speed demon ..but she makes up for it in the transmitted anxiety of her seamlessly rapid turns, abrupt stops, and annoying accelleration curves.
Hey Surf!
When the struts collapse, the 6-speed trannies fail, the ABS recalls begin, or who knows what undreamed of maladies attack this first-year Ford offering, as they always do, what will we hear from this publication then? They raved over the Focus the first year, too.
As I recall, pardon the pun.
Well, it certainly isn't going to happen with a Detroit publication reviewing a product from, well, Detroit!
When the struts collapse, the 6-speed trannies fail, the ABS recalls begin, or who knows what undreamed of maladies attack this first-year Ford offering, as they always do, what will we hear from this publication then? They raved over the Focus the first year, too.
As I recall, pardon the pun.
Gary!
I know I've succeeded in adding to their self-imposed angst when I get the single-digit salute as they swing by, WFO, off to their next ticket, accident, and/or accelerated trip to buy some more overpriced gasoline. The joy is, these mopes usually die the earliest from the effects of all that useless rage..
I know, I know,
When they're exercising their anxieties and self-important agressiveness on MY tailgate, I flip em a single-digit salute in the rear-view and just slow down a little. This works with the Sport Ute mutts, too. It's behavior unique and very common to the vehicle class. Really honks em off when you drive sanely. And I'm never a left lane dweller.
I know I've succeeded in adding to their self-imposed angst when I get the single-digit salute as they swing by, WFO, off to their next ticket, accident, and/or accelerated trip to buy some more overpriced gasoline. The joy is, these mopes usually die the earliest from the effects of all that useless rage..
I know, I know,
Easy there tamu. The duratec is a fine engine. The problem is that wherever they got it from, they haven't done much of anything with it since they started building it. Hey, I really don't care if they stole it from the flying saucer that crashed at Roswell NM, the fact is that while the competitors all went with variable valve timing and other notable improvements, Ford was content to sit back and rest on its laurels for about a decade and do nothing. The basic form is still a 200/200 fixed valve engine, just like it was in 1995. Yes, I know, it's just appearing now with VVT in select models, but not in many others. Toyota, in contrast, developed the 1MZ V-6 through several improvements, and now sells the 270 hp 2GR in the Camry. The numbers speak for themselves. Once again, time to play catch up.
Back to the books tamu, the procedure for turning off the VSC/traction control in the Camry is all over the internet, and in the Camry pubs, if you look for it. Car and Driver just missed it. Shame on Toyota for not just installing a button. Hint: it's one of those "key on, engine off, press gas three times, with a full moon, and voodoo doll on the dash" things.
i just can't believe people here that can easily make a good thing into something negative!!all lip service
CONGRATS TO FORD A JOB WELL DONE!!!
Awww c'mon Boxcar, read carefully. The Fusion is a good thing, no question about it. But if you want 270hp and not 220hp, well, the Camry is 50hp "better". Those are pure, objective numbers, period. How exactly is that "lip service"???
And why, pray tell, is the Freestyle, mysteriously making do with the 200hp version of the engine. They coulda dropped in the 220 version and at least got it on parity with the Highlander.
Don't wave the flag at me, explain why GM and Ford repeat such blunders over and over and over. . .
And why, pray tell, is the Freestyle, mysteriously making do with the 200hp version of the engine. They coulda dropped in the 220 version and at least got it on parity with the Highlander.
Don't wave the flag at me, explain why GM and Ford repeat such blunders over and over and over. . .
As far as a truck engine is concerned the 5.7L Titan doesn't hold much against the 5.4L with the exception of a few hp. I like the fact that Ford backed up the motor with a stout transmission and rear axle rather than recalibrating fuel and timing curves for just a few extra hp. If the truck buyer is really concerned about making the most power in the long run then the 5.4L is definitely the better engine to choose. As for the Cobalt vs. Civic on mpg, the Cobalt packs a larger mill that the sewing machine looking thing the Civic has standard. I've driven both and I'll take a car that can keep up with traffic without winding out every gear over an extra 6 mpg.
Screw FORD. Some of the worst vehicles I have
ever owned. Now Building the Fusion in Mexico.
Let the lettuce pickers buy them.
Give me Toyota all the way !!!!!
ever owned. Now Building the Fusion in Mexico.
Let the lettuce pickers buy them.
Give me Toyota all the way !!!!!
I will tell you what the GF has asked me for some help car shopping (arrrrrggghhhh). After test driving everything and I mean everything I can tell you that anyone that thinks the fusion is more quiet or refined inside than the new camry must have driven diff. cars than we did not even close. The camry was much nicer than the 06 Accord we drove also (I was alittle disappointed) I am NOT a Toyota fan too blahh.. but the camry is very nice, not taking anything away from the fusion just didnt like as much.
The new camry is leaps and bounds ahead of the fusion. Even if both v6's were compared it would still be apples to oranges. The camry trumps the fusion in every category except sporting intentions. The fusion may go around coeners better but it is just another car compared to camry.
"Let the lettuce pickers buy them?" What?
"Let the lettuce pickers buy them?" What?
It's a reference to the stereotype that Mexican nationals in the USA are most commonly picking lettuce as their employment.
That's about all what someone from Ohio would think they know about the subject, at any rate.
ekpolk you make a good point!!
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