Let me start off by saying that I expected this stuff to work.
Ran it in my Grand Prix. 90K miles. Bought it at 83K. I think a lady owned it. No maintenence records. Castrol GTX 10-30 both times. Used Purolator Premium filters of the 4.3 liter size. Both clean and rinse showed no benefit. Mileage did not change one way or the other. Seat of the pants is not something I am good at, so I cannot say.
Ran it in my ZX6-E. 18K miles. Was in "Great Condition" with "Good Maintenence". Within a month all coolant hoses had to be replaced, and brake fluid and coolant were both brown. Rotella T 5-40 both ways. Supertech 7317 for clean. PureOne 14610 for rinse. Expected a lot of gunk to come out of the engine, as the oil that I originally took out of it looked like straight crude oil. You can see pics of the two filters for the bike here
http://www.jason-long.com/filterchop.htm
Neither filter showed any residue or buildup aside from the metal shavings from cutting it open. No benefit in smoothness, gas mileage, etc. Sprung about 3 leaks, and had to add oil today for the first time since i bought the bike.
Overall, I am not impressed. I can say that it is possible that the Grand Prix was in good shape, because they seem to be easy on oil. I dont' think that I can say that same thing about the bike. Either way I did not see any improvement in either vehicle. I followed the directions given for both uses as close as I could. I dumped 50 miles early on the bike because 3rd was getting slippery.
Could there have been cleaning? Yes
Could there be a magic improvement? Not that I can see. Grand Prix still had varnish on the rockers, and nothing hit me as odd on either change aside from the leaf that landed in the oil while i was changing the bike oil. I sprung a few leaks on the bike. Was it cleaning something, possible, but there is no way of really knowing.
The one fallacy I see in the Auto-RX sale is that if it doesn't work, then the person feels dissapointed. If it works a little, a leak develops, and the person either waits for it to stop, or fixes it. If it really works, then the person is happy. I honestly wouldn't run it again because all I really got out of it was $40 something for the ARX, $50 something for the extra filters and oil that wouldn't otherwise be used, and a few leaks that are dirtying up my garage.
Cliff's Notes
Not impressed.
[ March 19, 2005, 02:16 AM: Message edited by: Shaman ]
Ran it in my Grand Prix. 90K miles. Bought it at 83K. I think a lady owned it. No maintenence records. Castrol GTX 10-30 both times. Used Purolator Premium filters of the 4.3 liter size. Both clean and rinse showed no benefit. Mileage did not change one way or the other. Seat of the pants is not something I am good at, so I cannot say.
Ran it in my ZX6-E. 18K miles. Was in "Great Condition" with "Good Maintenence". Within a month all coolant hoses had to be replaced, and brake fluid and coolant were both brown. Rotella T 5-40 both ways. Supertech 7317 for clean. PureOne 14610 for rinse. Expected a lot of gunk to come out of the engine, as the oil that I originally took out of it looked like straight crude oil. You can see pics of the two filters for the bike here
http://www.jason-long.com/filterchop.htm
Neither filter showed any residue or buildup aside from the metal shavings from cutting it open. No benefit in smoothness, gas mileage, etc. Sprung about 3 leaks, and had to add oil today for the first time since i bought the bike.
Overall, I am not impressed. I can say that it is possible that the Grand Prix was in good shape, because they seem to be easy on oil. I dont' think that I can say that same thing about the bike. Either way I did not see any improvement in either vehicle. I followed the directions given for both uses as close as I could. I dumped 50 miles early on the bike because 3rd was getting slippery.
Could there have been cleaning? Yes
Could there be a magic improvement? Not that I can see. Grand Prix still had varnish on the rockers, and nothing hit me as odd on either change aside from the leaf that landed in the oil while i was changing the bike oil. I sprung a few leaks on the bike. Was it cleaning something, possible, but there is no way of really knowing.
The one fallacy I see in the Auto-RX sale is that if it doesn't work, then the person feels dissapointed. If it works a little, a leak develops, and the person either waits for it to stop, or fixes it. If it really works, then the person is happy. I honestly wouldn't run it again because all I really got out of it was $40 something for the ARX, $50 something for the extra filters and oil that wouldn't otherwise be used, and a few leaks that are dirtying up my garage.
Cliff's Notes
Not impressed.
[ March 19, 2005, 02:16 AM: Message edited by: Shaman ]
