My aging (in place) parents

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This is my story of my June with my aging parents. They live is So Cal, nice house at some point, near 1/2 acre.

My parents vowed to stay and age in their own home. Vehemently, ignorantly, forcefully and dreamily. It IS what they wanted.

This is not a financial story, as they were very smart with money.

They are now 90 and 92, and have been deteriorating. Dad has some brain plaque, mom has brain atrophy. Father has forms of sundowning and most of the off label psych drugs make it worse. Scary worse. All in the dementia family.

On June 3, my father, 92 was in the kitchen by the refrigerator without his walker. The story goes, phone rang (junk call as usual), he went for phone and fell. Severely fracturing his femur near the hip. I did not have access to his medical records until recently and only saw the X-rays June 18th. The bone splinters were quite extreme. June 4th was his surgery for the repair. I will state up front the ortho surgeon did an absolutely amazing job, visually stunning before and after with 4 incisions.


This incident set forth a series of events that taxed our entire family. My surviving sibling, my brother, was already suffering some burnout from caring for them, including ulcers. I immediately cancelled a previously scheduled vacation trip, flew down using the credit from that trip, plus an extra $100 or so. I scheduled a couple weeks. This was not long enough.

June 5 - Upon arrival I found some level of chaos. My brother had engaged a caregiver company and arrangements were being set it place.to care for my mom while dad was in hospital. Tired from travel. Parents house, dusty, set up camp in nasty back room. Just make a hole in the junk to sleep in. Crash out.


June 6-7 - Dad at hospital. Pretty much out of it, skinnier than skinny. Mom at home worried sick, doesn't remember where dad is. Start making appointments for mom, so skinny. Think concentration camp skinny. I am not exaggerating. They have not been eating, forgetting to eat and eating like people on seriously limited diets. Arrange for mom to get doc evaluation June 10


June 8 10-10:30PM Dad's home hospital bed, lift, chair, walker are delivered. Then dad is brought home rather late Sat night. Discharge papers.


June 9 Dad sleeps, mom worries, no idea what happens from minute to minute. Seems a little sick


June 10 Take mom to GP/IM doc. Gives cognitive ability test. Not good. Need blood test. Mom has runny nose. No fever.


June 11 Setting up caregivers, 24/7 one for each. 8 hour shifts. 6AM, 2PM and 10PM. Negotiate fee structure.

They have enough money for 2 caregivers, 24 hours per day, 365 days. Basically approaching $600,000 per year, not counting any other expenses.


June 12 Take mom for blood draw, Quest


June 13 Dad first nurse visit Mom has cough


June 14 Dad First PT dad has cough


June 15 I move to brother's house. Dust and lousy air in parents house getting to me


June 16 Parents sick Positive Covid test. I'm positive COVID as well. Move back to house, feel OK, thoroughly clean room, wash linens, do wash. Get rid of junk. Isolating in room. Sewer backs up.

June 17 Cancel mom's dietitian appointment

Mom falls, minor hip fracture.

The rest of the month deal with every issue under the sun, get POA. medical permissions, etc

Brother and I tour places for them. Find a good place, a house set up. Nice and professional. Put deposit down.

Move them there while drugged.

About once a week they erupt. Ugggh.

All involved say they will get used to it.

Listen only to this, if nothing else: Don't try to age out in a house and property. It's not just you in that decision.
 
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This is my story of my June with my aging parents. They live is So Cal

My parents vowed to stay and age in their own home. Vehemently, ignorantly, forcefully and dreamily. It IS what they wanted.

This is not a financial story, as they were very smart with money.

They are now 90 and 92, and have been deteriorating. Dad has some brain plaque, mom has brain atrophy. Father has forms of sundowning and most of the off label psych drugs make it worse. Scary worse. All in the dementia family.

On June 3, my father, 92 was in the kitchen by the refrigerator without his walker. The story goes, phone rang (junk call as usual), he went for phone and fell. Severely fracturing his femur near the hip. I did not have access to his medical records until recently and only saw the X-rays June 18th. The bone splinters were quite extreme. June 4th was his surgery for the repair. I will state up front the ortho surgeon did an absolutely amazing job, visually stunning before and after with 4 incisions.


This incident set forth a series of events that taxed our entire family. My surviving sibling, my brother, was already suffering some burnout from caring for them, including ulcers. I immediately cancelled a previously scheduled vacation trip, flew down using the credit from that trip, plus an extra $100 or so. I scheduled a couple weeks. This was not long enough.

June 5 - Upon arrival I found some level of chaos. My brother had engaged a caregiver company and arrangements were being set it place.to care for my mom while dad was in hospital. Tired from travel. Parents house, dusty, set up camp in nasty back room. Just make a hole in the junk to sleep in. Crash out.


June 6-7 - Dad at hospital. Pretty much out of it, skinnier than skinny. Mom at home worried sick, doesn't remember where dad is. Start making appointments for mom, so skinny. Think concentration camp skinny. I am not exaggerating. They have not been eating, forgetting to eat and eating like people on seriously limited diets. Arrange for mom to get doc evaluation June 10


June 8 10-10:30PM Dad's home hospital bed, lift, chair, walker are delivered. Then dad is brought home rather late Sat night. Discharge papers.


June 9 Dad sleeps, mom worries, no idea what happens from minute to minute. Seems a little sick


June 10 Take mom to GP/IM doc. Gives cognitive ability test. Not good. Need blood test. Mom has runny nose. No fever.


June 11 Setting up caregivers, 24/7 one for each. 8 hour shifts. 6AM, 2PM and 10PM. Negotiate fee structure.

They have enough money for 2 caregivers, 24 hours per day, 365 days. Basically approaching $600,000 per year, not counting any other expenses.


June 12 Take mom for blood draw, Quest


June 13 Dad first nurse visit Mom has cough


June 14 Dad First PT dad has cough


June 15 I move to brother's house. Dust and lousy air in parents house getting to me


June 16 Parents sick Positive Covid test. I'm positive COVID as well. Move back to house, feel OK, thoroughly clean room, wash linens, do wash. Get rid of junk. Isolating in room. Sewer backs up.

June 17 Cancel mom's dietitian appointment

Mom falls, minor hip fracture.

The rest of the month deal with every issue under the sun, get POA. medical permissions, etc

Brother and I tour places for them. Find a good place, a house set up. Nice and professional. Put deposit down.

Move them there while drugged.

About once a week they erupt. Ugggh.

Move parents there.
Brother, I feel for you. It's a tough road, I'm on it too, though not as far along as you. I feel for your folks too.
 
It's not easy. My mother was very eager to go to a nursing home. I don't think that she was that bad but she wanted to go. We're dealing with my in-laws now. Luckily, not much dementia. My father in law is about 95% of this full mental faculty and mother in law is 100% but she has some depression. They both bicker with each other and my wife. Dealing with both mental and physical issues at the same time is really tough.
 
I feel for you. So stressful, frustrating and hard. Nobody wants to wind up in a "facility."

After my wife's dad died, I spent every weekend for 6 months dealing with the huge mess that was his business and their property. We ended up having to move her mom off the property after a circuit breaker panel meltdown and I determined the whole house needed to be condemned due to age, bad foundation and scary bad wiring. Now she lives with us and while we sold their place, she has insufficient $$ to pay for long-term inside care or a nursing home. Her quality of life is objectively miles better than before, though. Mine is substantially worse. 😠

My parents are a decade younger than yours and live in a tiny town in Montana. So far they're healthy except for aches and pains and vision issues, but I'll have the same issues coming up. They don't have lots of capital gains to finance long nursing home stays, either.
 
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Pablo, I hate that for you and your parents. If it's any consolation, I have an inkling of what it's like. Without boring you with details, my wife and I currently live with and care for my wife's Aunt. She had a stroke a while back, can't do much by herself anymore. Early stages of dementia. We are her live-in caregivers. It's hard, so much harder than anyone not experiencing it can know.
 
I feel for youMy wife moved her mom in
We suggested moving the in-laws in with us. My father in law is most welcome and wouldn't mind coming. My mother in law is staunchly opposed to leaving her tiny house and my wife doesn't want her mother living with us due to the mother in law's strong personality and negativity.
 
My dad was 90 and in the hospital - he had a no nonsense doctor who said I will not release you to go home - only the nursing home. He was wound up - when mom, younger and healthier said - no - we move in together. He died 1st night and she moved in with me for 2 weeks. She told me she had run into old friends and was ready to go back. She lived to 93.
 
I can relate. My grandparents are in their mid 80s and keep saying they want to die in their house. They have 20 acres, and my grandfather insists that his several acres of lawn is nicely mowed, which he really can't do anymore. Their house is two stories, and they also have a long driveway. At this point we are at the stage where everyone in the family is pitching in (luckily my family is quite large) but they aren't yet seeing how much effort is needed by everyone else for them to remain in place. I can imagine it will only get worse as their health declines as they age.
 
I can relate. My grandparents are in their mid 80s and keep saying they want to die in their house. They have 20 acres, and my grandfather insists that his several acres of lawn is nicely mowed, which he really can't do anymore. Their house is two stories, and they also have a long driveway. At this point we are at the stage where everyone in the family is pitching in (luckily my family is quite large) but they aren't yet seeing how much effort is needed by everyone else for them to remain in place. I can imagine it will only get worse as their health declines as they age.
Pretty much the same and the house did go to heck with my dad thinking he would get out and fix it.

Yeah. And he is blind and now wheel chair bound. Frustrating.

I kept this bottled up, and yes yes sharing too much. Don't care.

Thanks all.
 
I feel your pain. My dad is 81, mom is 79. Dad was doing well until about 2 years ago, then suddenly things went downhill. I live 2000 miles away, my sisters thankfully live nearby. They'll be moving into assisted living shortly, the costs of the caregivers were becoming astronomical. My mom's overwhelmed because he usually took care of her, the house, the finances, etc..
 
I can relate. My grandparents are in their mid 80s and keep saying they want to die in their house. They have 20 acres, and my grandfather insists that his several acres of lawn is nicely mowed, which he really can't do anymore. Their house is two stories, and they also have a long driveway. At this point we are at the stage where everyone in the family is pitching in (luckily my family is quite large) but they aren't yet seeing how much effort is needed by everyone else for them to remain in place. I can imagine it will only get worse as their health declines as they age.
My wife is an only child. Thankfully, the in-laws have lawn service for their 1/30th acre lawn. But they won't drink tap water so my wife lugs cases of water to their house every week. Oh, and it has to be Poland Spring.
 
I can relate. My grandparents are in their mid 80s and keep saying they want to die in their house. They have 20 acres, and my grandfather insists that his several acres of lawn is nicely mowed, which he really can't do anymore. Their house is two stories, and they also have a long driveway. At this point we are at the stage where everyone in the family is pitching in (luckily my family is quite large) but they aren't yet seeing how much effort is needed by everyone else for them to remain in place. I can imagine it will only get worse as their health declines as they age.
One thing I keep telling myself, especially as I'm long distance from my folks and it does make it harder, is how much they sacrificed for me and my siblings. I do insist my siblings, and myself, treat them with kindness no matter how hard it is or frustrated everyone gets. It's the least I can do.
 
Very difficult and sober read, Pablo. It's something many of us have, are or will go through. Sometimes, more than once. We went through a tough period during the demise of my Pop from glioblastoma. You are not alone and keep your spirits up. Many hugs to you and your parents.
 
Dying at home works out for those people who are lucky enough to not wake up one morning or those who have a fatal accident at home. We found my grandpa sitting dead on the bench in his garden, a bunch of squirrels near him. Everything pointed at him having climbed a ladder and fallen: a ladder next to his apple tree, a basket with spilled apples next to it. We think a squirrel startled him and he tripped and fell. He didn't break anything and was able to get back to the bench. He then died from natural causes right there. He was 98 and in good shape until the end. His wife had passed 5 years earlier and he missed her terribly. We miss both of them.

A more distant relative was given a month or two at beat but by now he has been in hospice at a facility for over a year.
 
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Dying at home works out for those people who are lucky enough to not wake up one morning or those who have a fatal accident at home. We found my grandpa sitting dead on the bench in his garden, a bunch of squirrels near him. Everything pointed at him having climbed a ladder and fallen: a ladder next to his apple tree, a basket with spilled apples next to it. We think a squirrel startled him and he tripped and fell. He didn't break anything and was able to get back to the bench. He then died from natural causes right there. He was 98 and in good shape until the end. His wife had passed 5 years earlier and he missed her terribly. We miss both of them.

A more distant relative was given a month or two at beat but by now he has been in hospice at a facility for over a year.
That doesn't sound like the worst way to go... still on one's own two feet and doing what you want to do. I mean, it's not as good as stroking out at 120 from the excitement of winning the Powerball lottery, but still pretty good.

(Sorry if that's not somebody's kind of humor)
 
Such a grim and sad situation @Pablo.

My Mom passed away from an unnecessary surgery when she was still a healthy, barnstorming 83 year old. My Dad passed away at 88, his mind as quick and sharp as ever, his heart failing him.

Both got home Hospice care in short order. Neither wanted to linger and make anyone suffer, including themselves. My Dad stopped talking his heart medications to speed up the process. It was one of the bravest things I've ever seen someone do.

Scott
 
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