Actually, they are.
The OTA update was to be sent to certain affected vehicles Tuesday, with the rest getting it at a later date.
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Musk Says Tesla ‘Dug Our Own Grave’ With The Cybertruck
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The OTA update was to be sent to certain affected vehicles Tuesday, with the rest getting it at a later date.
I feel like this is relevant.
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Now post the photo of the vehicle that hauls the horses when they are dehydrated.
Now according to many articles the Cybertruck won't crumple in a crash but if it's severe enough it will shed its giga cast components to dissipate energy. This thing is beginning to look like a 0 or 1 star crash rating. The fact that Tesla and the Muskrat claim it doesn't deform in a crash should be really worrying people considering this. The "build it indestructible " mentality of the late 60's and early 70's showed when it came to abysmal survival odds in vehicle accidents.
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I know there is concern with the test. However until we see iihs run this through their gamut of tests really all theories. I say iihs rather then nhtsa is there standards are behind the times
Considering that Teslas are among the highest rated vehicles regarding the safety/crash testing, it is mindless speculation to think that the Cybertruck will get a low rating for occupant safety. You are assuming that Tesla's engineers didn't have crash worthiness as a primary prerequisite in the design from the very beginning, along with making sure that it would meed NHTSA regulations for things like ride height, headlights & tail lights and all the other minutiae that vehicles need to adhere to in order to be sold in the US.
I wouldn't bet against Tesla when it comes to these things. Especially when they started with a clean slate in the design and production methods and materials. You can be sure that plenty of crash testing has already occurred.
Now if it was a company like GM that allowed their pickup trucks with dual saddle gas tanks that could easily explode from a side impact to remain on the road for years before a recall because it was cheaper to pay off lawsuits than to recall them, I wouldn't be surprised if safety compromises were made in the design and production. That's what happens when you don't have the resources to do things right in the first place.
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i wouldnt place a bet either direction since american car safety standards are complicated and built on self reporting. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) New Car Assessment Program (NCAP) crash testing is a post-market (i.e after the vehicle goes on sale) assessment, and the star-rating label is merely a shaming tool disguised as a consumer information. No automaker wants to be seen with a bad or lower rating (especially when compared to competitors) so they all strive to do better. This is the same reason why the publication of the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety's (IIHS) Poor-Marginal-Acceptable-Good ratings (these tests are better than the USA government's NCAP crash tests) often prompt quick response and correction of bad ratings.
If it were a premarket certification and approval, there would be minimum levels of crashworthiness that all new cars would have to pass before they would be allowed to go on sale, and there would be re-assessments and re-approvals necessary when a significant engineering change (such as the introduction of a new engine, transmission or introduction of AWD).
If it were a premarket certification and approval, there would be minimum levels of crashworthiness that all new cars would have to pass before they would be allowed to go on sale, and there would be re-assessments and re-approvals necessary when a significant engineering change (such as the introduction of a new engine, transmission or introduction of AWD).
Footage of Tesla Cybertruck units after allegedly being subjected to crash testing has once again raised serious questions about the safety of Tesla's electric pickup truck. The lack of body damage seems to suggest that passengers and other vehicles will take the brunt of the impact in a collision.
Apparently just ripping off a giga cast section is "sufficient " according to the Musketeer. He is mentally in a very different place than 10 plus years ago. I wouldn't jump all in that Tesla is placing safety high up on the list of things with this thing. Engineers told Musk four years ago that stainless steel doesn't crumple it is springy. Not something that is a good attribute in an accident.
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Their is some confusion on the interwebs with some uninformed yt channels where the cybertruck frontal test is compared with a side overlap rigid barrier test of normal ice vehicles. Pay close attention to the underbody in the last two videos, to see how its folding in.
the video in question
the tesla frontal 35 mph test
f150 nhtsa frontal test at 35 mph
the video in question
the tesla frontal 35 mph test
f150 nhtsa frontal test at 35 mph
Still no EPA range/efficiency figures, no charging session videos on YouTube, no range tests, no towing tests.
These deliveries so far have to be just a PR stunt. No way dozens (hundreds?) of people have one of the most anticipated new vehicles of the decade and they’ve said essential NOTHING about it.
These deliveries so far have to be just a PR stunt. No way dozens (hundreds?) of people have one of the most anticipated new vehicles of the decade and they’ve said essential NOTHING about it.
Who has these to test towing yet anyway? Three non Tesla employees have driven them and none of them are towing experts, so what is to be gained there.
As far as EPA tests go the numbers have been released. They're much less than anyone hoped. I'm pretty sure all of the deliveries that have happened are insiders. There's just not enough to go around yet.
It's dozens of deliveries. You had it right the first time. There's some cool tech here, but overall I'm not impressed and wouldn't have ever been a buyer, even when I needed a truck.
Not that I can find. FuelEconomy.gov has no published data on the Cybertruck. The only range numbers published are Tesla’s own estimated figures, not official EPA-est. numbers.
This is what I found. Still not great.
According to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the Tesla Cybertruck has an estimated range of 340 milesfor the all-wheel drive (AWD) trim. This is an improvement over the initial range of 300 miles announced in 2019 during the launch event. However, the tri-motor Cybertruck, now known as the Cyberbeast, only has a range of 320 miles instead of the advertised 500 miles.
Wherever these numbers came from, the EPA allows a couple of different methods to obtain these numbers and Tesla always chooses the less honest one. I may like Tesla but I don't give them a free pass, that's for sure.
According to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the Tesla Cybertruck has an estimated range of 340 milesfor the all-wheel drive (AWD) trim. This is an improvement over the initial range of 300 miles announced in 2019 during the launch event. However, the tri-motor Cybertruck, now known as the Cyberbeast, only has a range of 320 miles instead of the advertised 500 miles.
Wherever these numbers came from, the EPA allows a couple of different methods to obtain these numbers and Tesla always chooses the less honest one. I may like Tesla but I don't give them a free pass, that's for sure.
It looks like battery production is a major issue.
https://www.reuters.com/business/au...-tesla-descends-into-battery-hell-2023-12-21/
https://www.reuters.com/business/au...-tesla-descends-into-battery-hell-2023-12-21/
Battery supply (and cost) is a problem for all the car companies. Tesla is having problems with the new 4680 battery development, but they are simply not making many Cybertrucks yet. Batteries would be a bigger problem if Tesla was ramping CT production.
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4680 were heralded as a breakthrough in terms of power density and cost reduction, Giga texas was suppose to churn out model ys with it, but then that went away and now only the cybertruck has it. They cannot seem to deliver just yet on it for reasons as linked above, and I think the cybertruck low productin volume is suffering due to that.
It would be fine if the market was stagnant, but I do see BMW pounding their chest about their 4680 in the upcoming neu klasse. with catl and eve energy
It would be fine if the market was stagnant, but I do see BMW pounding their chest about their 4680 in the upcoming neu klasse. with catl and eve energy
Probably the manufacturing times. They're making a lot of cars and probably can't supply all of their batteries on their own supply currently. If they focus on one model maybe they'll be able to eventually ramp up.
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