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Musk Says Tesla ‘Dug Our Own Grave’ With The Cybertruck
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Maybe, maybe not.
Sometimes doing the development work now while things have slowed can put companies in a great position once things pick up. I was reading in Inc magazine that several large companies were developing and got going during a downturn or recession. FedEx, UPS, Cliffbar, and others.
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That's not how Elon rolls. I'm sure there are other visionary leaders like HPs founders are like that. Elon isn't one of them. He moves fast and double down with investors money, and he is very good at getting investors money.
Engineers have been telling the Big Giant head they're a decade or two out before anything remotely resembling "autonomous driving" exists. I've said for years that the roads will have to communicate back as well not just the vehicle.
Maybe true. I have no problem with people wanting to buy it as is as a toy but I personally believe the commercial trucking would get there first, and come out with a lobbying mechanism to change the road (either new design on something for the truck / car to "see" it better like magnetic indicator on the road), or as you say communicate back.
Truck companies would pay billions to come up with a way to keep on trucking 247 without human involvement and remove the limit of 10 hours per day driving. I don't think consumers have the reason to pay that much when they can just fly.
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Jeff: thanks for keeping it focused on numbers - and not letting the Twitter deal mess you up …
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This should get Elon into real hot water as it's one thing to promise range or features but "bulletproof " is really dicey and has to be stipulated.
Why Teslas cybertruck isn't as bulletproof as musk claims
Tesla Cybertruck Isn’t Nearly as Bulletproof as Elon Musk Wants You to Think
Musk bragged about the pickup’s resistance to a “Tommy gun,” but that’s not the protection he originally promised."This should get Elon into real hot water as it's one thing to promise range or features but "bulletproof " is really dicey and has to be stipulated.
Why Teslas cybertruck isn't as bulletproof as musk claims
And people actually thought the specs musk claimed would turn out to be true? He's a hack.
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I think while you are valid in your opinion, i think alot of the target demographic wont care. These folks want a lifestyle vehicle to complement their model s3xy or just want their new ev to be a statement piece.
I think they have another winner on their hands, for their demo. im excited for the ground up next gen e150
I think they have another winner on their hands, for their demo. im excited for the ground up next gen e150
Time will tell; the Cybertruck is a strange, risky endeavor. It just seems to me that for a pickup to be viable, ultimately it has to function like a pickup, not just a lifestyle vehicle. Who the heck knows?
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Not sure marketing gurus would concur with your assessment. Trucks and like vehicles are wildly profitable for the image and perceived lifestyle. The function of a pickup is just a seed of equivalent benefit for a few pickup owners.
It is very rare for a person to purchase a vehicle based on needs. Almost all vehicle sales are based on wants.
Should have grabbed Altman and then I could sell my stock after the AI hype boost.
My guess is the “500+” mile range will be BS too.
Same as the 630 mile Tesla Roadster II
Same as the 520 mile Model S Plaid Plus
Same as the 500 mile Tesla Semi (fully loaded)
All complete lies.
Article in todays WSJ says that Tesla is having a big problem with the choice of ultra-hard stainless steel.
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The stainless steel, which is being used for the truck’s outer shell, has proven challenging to bend and manipulate, testing Tesla’s ability to shape the material into body panels that line up correctly and don’t result in large gaps when installed, according to people who have worked on the pickup.
On top of that, it is so hard and strong that it can be difficult to flatten, these people said. The metal is produced in coils that resemble giant rolls of toilet paper, and even when unrolled, it has a tendency to spring back into its earlier, curved form. ...:"
Basically it's too hard to manipulate using typical stamping machines.
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The stainless steel, which is being used for the truck’s outer shell, has proven challenging to bend and manipulate, testing Tesla’s ability to shape the material into body panels that line up correctly and don’t result in large gaps when installed, according to people who have worked on the pickup.
On top of that, it is so hard and strong that it can be difficult to flatten, these people said. The metal is produced in coils that resemble giant rolls of toilet paper, and even when unrolled, it has a tendency to spring back into its earlier, curved form. ...:"
Basically it's too hard to manipulate using typical stamping machines.
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we shall see since first delivery is in 3 days.
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