Motul 8100 X-Clean + 5w-30??
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MOTUL is Mobil in French (j/k) so why not run M1 ESP?
I will say France sourced Dijon (Maille) is better than Canadian Dijon (Maille), but that doesn't apply here
8100 x-clean is a syn tech blend not a majority high group synthetic, I see no great benefit to the high expenditure.
I will say France sourced Dijon (Maille) is better than Canadian Dijon (Maille), but that doesn't apply here
8100 x-clean is a syn tech blend not a majority high group synthetic, I see no great benefit to the high expenditure.
link to the MOTUL TDS:
https://azupim01.motul.com/media/mo...x-clean__5w-30_en_de_motul_17720_20241216.pdf
https://azupim01.motul.com/media/mo...x-clean__5w-30_en_de_motul_17720_20241216.pdf
edyvw
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Previous version was really good with HTHS of 3.6cP. Now it is just average. Current one not worth extra buck.
It’s available from FCP Euro so it’s ultimately a low cost oil change.
edyvw
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x-Clean+ 0W30 EFE is step up from this oil.
Sounds good I’ll look into that oil.
With that being said, would the oil that I originally posted in this thread be good for 3,000 miles runs in a 2.0 turbo VW engine?
edyvw
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Of course. It is good oil. I have several 5l jugs on my shelf and will use it in my Tiguan 2.0T with 5k oci.
its in my bimmer right now.i have used it 2-3 times last years. no complain until 8-9000km,5000miles in your country.
what i really like is the sound of the engine.gives an extra sport vibe, its not one of the "silenced" ones ,although smooth on idle.
what i really like is the sound of the engine.gives an extra sport vibe, its not one of the "silenced" ones ,although smooth on idle.
the link on the top from tech sheet says hths is 3.5 for new one as you say. other than that, i dont see any other difference between old version and new.
is it bcs. of that small precentage on hths which make it worst or is it something else we dont know about it and you can inform us?
edyvw
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Previous had good amount of PAO, now it is Group III.
1) when you say previous,which year from -until version?
2) is this info from safety data sheet or speculation from kinematic viscosity and pow pour point like you always assume when an oil is more PAO? if the second then i cant remember when this oil had lower pour point than -36 and KV was always about 11.5 -12 not much of a difference.
edyvw
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Previus version had HTHS 3.6cP in pds, pour point -45 (i think).
-36 is new, group III version.
i have been searching for revision date back to 2020 and it was still -36
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224222832430
revision date 2022 also -36
so,2020 and here hasnt changed its recipy and pour point is the same.and you said in your analysis that is a good one.
also years back when new xcess gen 2 and xclean gen 2 came out around 2022 ,you made a presentation post about these oils where first you mentioned complimentary words about xclean+5-30 ,how good it is(recently used at that time by you)
and last if not least
number 1st on the list,that is from 2020 same pour point back then
i know it sounds strange but all the good words you mentioned about this oil were with pour point -36
perhaps you confuse it with a xcess one? or xclean 5-40 one?
edyvw
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When I have time I will try to find old pds, as my life doesn’t depend whether pour point is -36 or -45. Generally, I don’t remember stuff I post two years ago, but I bet you there is somewhere old pds.i have been searching for revision date back to 2020 and it was still -36
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224222832430
revision date 2022 also -36
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so,2020 and here hasnt changed its recipy and pour point is the same.and you said in your analysis that is a good one.
also years back when new xcess gen 2 and xclean gen 2 came out around 2022 ,you made a presentation post about these oils where first you mentioned complimentary words about xclean+5-30 ,how good it is(recently used at that time by you)
and last if not least
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number 1st on the list,that is from 2020 same pour point back then
i know it sounds strange but all the good words you mentioned about this oil were with pour point -36
perhaps you confuse it with a xcess one? or xclean 5-40 one?
I am trying to figure out importance of this?
when someone asks for an oil if its good or not we have to be punctual to our words.
i am not saying you are not ,just curious for the year ,maybe you got mixed up or something.
its the oil i use after your suggestion years back with that pour point ,so yes it means to me hear the right explanation why you changed your mind.its the price you pay for being a celebrity!
edyvw
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I will find it bcs. I was using it for that reason.
Also, the oil in question here is not bad. It is just part of the “race to the bottom.” Blenders figured out how to achieved desired product cheaper. It still has all the approvals, and I actually have I think 3 5ltr bottles, and plan to use it.
edyvw
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I think I confused X-Clean+ 5W30 with 5W40. Old X-Clean 5W40 had HTHS 3.6 (new one is 3.9).
thank you for taking time to clear this out for me.i appreciate it.
its a good oil, my engine likes it. hths is 3.5 and 11.8 kv,its not bad.
the only negative is the high noack , the mb limit, of 10%
a good group 3 with 1-2% of esters maybe?
i am thinking of trying mobil 0-30 with more esters on my next fall-winter OCI.
i like the thought of esters in my engine
