MaximumMini
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Is there a date code on the dome of the filter? Those fake alibaba Motorcraft filters don't have any date code on them from the ad photos.
Is there a date code on the dome of the filter? Those fake alibaba Motorcraft filters don't have any date code on them from the ad photos.
Yeah, the actual base plate didn't "bend" in the OPs filter failure. The seam around the perimeter stretched and blew open. The pressure trying to blow the can off the end plate caused the base seam let go. If the seam was defective and weak due to bad manufacturing, even normal maximum engine oil pressure could have caused the failure.The base plate is too thick to bend by oil pump pressure like the bad one you pictured.
Good you found the video. The can is a little thinner but imo it was a defective base plate. The base plate is too thick to bend by oil pump pressure like the bad one you pictured. That the new filter works fine means the engine is ok. The new bypass valve is ok, been used for many years. Motorcraft is lucky.
The actual base plate didn't "bend" in the OPs filter failure. The seam around the perimeter stretched and blew open. The pressure caused the base plate to can seam let go.
Yes, I'd be watching any other filter after this one just to make sure the oil pump isn't acting up. I edited my previous post to say if the base seam was weak and defective from a bad crimp job during manufacturing, then even maximum normal oil pressure could cause this failure.Still, I'm more inclined to believe the Oil Filter caused this than the relief valve in the engine itself.
If it happens again with a different oil filter then I'll know for certain.
More likely the pump pressure relief. But if the filter bypass valve failed to open it wouldn't blow the end off the filter, it would instead implode the center tube and media. The end cap blowing off like shown in your photos is from the can not able to withstand the pressure from the oil pump.
What new filter did you install after this one?
You mentioned earlier that the car's oil pressure gauge seems to read normally. What kind of oil pressure gauge is it ... one with actual numbers on the gauge or just a Low to High range type?
What's the oil pressure at higher RPM when the oil is still pretty cold? Is it a stock oil pump, or higher volume, higher max pressure aftermarket pump? What's the oil pump pressure relief spring supposed to be set for?I have a VDO Oil Pressure gauge and sender. I wasn't looking at it when this happened. It was fast and unexpected. I had not noticed any oil pressure oddities. After replacing the filter and the oil and starting the engine, the oil pressure is right where I expect it to be.
70psi cold then gradually drops as it warms up. It ends up around 20 psi fully warmed up at idle.
Yes, I'd be watching any other filter after this one just to make sure the oil pump isn't acting up. I edited my previous post to say if the base seam was weak and defective from a bad crimp job during manufacturing, then even maximum normal oil pressure could cause this failure.
How long was that filter on before it failed? Was it installed right before the trip?
What's the oil pressure at higher RPM when the oil is still pretty cold? Is it a stock oil pump, or higher volume, higher max pressure aftermarket pump? What's the oil pump pressure relief spring supposed to be set for?
And over here in the manufacturing world we honestly have a fail every once in a while. It happens. You could hire Tibetian Level 60 Psionic Monks to hand inspect every filter that the machines spit out and just as sure as God made little green apples you'll miss a defective one once in a while.Yeah, the actual base plate didn't "bend" in the OPs filter failure. The seam around the perimeter stretched and blew open. The pressure trying to blow the can off the end plate caused the base seam let go. If the seam was defective and weak due to bad manufacturing, even normal maximum engine oil pressure could have caused the failure.
I bought 6 Autolite spark plugs for $10. They had to be fake because the electrodes burned off in 2000 miles. Must be worth it to someone to make fakes.They are faking oil filters now?
If I might suggest - let it idle a while when you have some spare time. Watch for pressure spikes. It goes without saying watch for filter blowouts.....ZeeOSix,
Did the date code tell you anything?
For the time being, I'm going to carry 5 quarts of 5W-30 oil and a filter in that vehicle if I go anywhere. (And a bag of clay Cat litter)
I used clay cat litter to clean up the huge oil spill mess and that stuff works wonders to clean up a mess like that.
If I might suggest - let it idle a while when you have some spare time. Watch for pressure spikes. It goes without saying watch for filter blowouts.....
Give it a little gas once in a while to up the RPMS for 30 seconds or so.
As far as letting it sit in the shop - would doubt that moisture had an effect on it. It was oily.... but stranger things have happened.
You've really only got 2 root cause possibilities here - bad filter or some insane pressure spike. My bet is on a bad filter (see my reply to Zee above)
Motorcraft date code uses the 2nd through 7th digit. So in this case it's 10/02/24 which is Oct 2, 2024. See the sticky thread at the top of the Oil Filter forum for date code reading hints.Looking at the code on top of the oil filter....
I'll bet this was made december of 2024
Yes, it needs to be opened up for inspection ... just guesses until that happens. If the center tube or media is damaged, then that would also be a sign of over pressure from the pump. In the mean time, if you look down through the base plate center hole and look at the center tube, does it look pushed in at all?I wish there was some expert that could analyze this filter just to see for sure.
I do intend to open it and post good crisp closeups of everything inside.
Yes, it needs to be opened up for inspection ... just guesses until that happens. If the center tube or media is damaged, then that would also be a sign of over pressure from the pump. In the mean time, if you look down through the base plate center hole and look at the center tube, does it look pushed in at all?